log books local

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  1. mjnkjn

    mjnkjn Bobtail Member

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    Do log books still have to be kept for doing local runs if you stay in one state??? and do you take your exsisting log book with you if you change trucks or does ever truck need its own log book????? Thanks for the advice!!!!!
     
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    Unless the law has been changed you only have to run a log book if you drive more than 100 miles from your base of operations.
     
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    That is a 100 mile radius if I'm not mistaken. You can drive more than 100 miles total that day but not leave that 100 mile radius and as long as you return to the same terminal you left from. That's how it is here in Ontario (well it's 160km but same thing)
     
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    You can take your log book to the other truck(s) as well. Just write the tractor number above the first tractor number.
     
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    Great Thanks for the info !!! it helps
     
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    Raezzor Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?

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    Here's the part of the FMCSR that pertains to local operations:

    http://www.fmcsa.dot.gov/rules-regu....aspx?chunkKey=090163348002396c#r49CFR395.1-e

    To quote,

    e) Short-haul operations

    (e)(1) 100 air-mile radius driver. A driver is exempt from the requirements of Section 395.8 if:


    (e)(1)(i) The driver operates within a 100 air-mile radius of the normal work reporting location;


    (e)(1)(ii) The driver, except a driver-salesperson, returns to the work reporting location and is released from work within 12 consecutive hours;


    (e)(1)(iii)(A) A property-carrying commercial motor vehicle driver has at least 10 consecutive hours off duty separating each 12 hours on duty;


    (e)(1)(iv)(A) A property-carrying commercial motor vehicle driver does not exceed 11 hours maximum driving time following 10 consecutive hours off duty;


    (e)(1)(v) The motor carrier that employs the driver maintains and retains for a period of 6 months accurate and true time records showing:


    (e)(1)(v)(A) The time the driver reports for duty each day;


    (e)(1)(v)(B) The total number of hours the driver is on duty each day;


    (e)(1)(v)(C) The time the driver is released from duty each day; and


    (e)(1)(v)(D) The total time for the preceding 7 days in accordance with §395.8(j)(2) for drivers used for the first time or intermittently.
     
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    tscottme Road Train Member

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    One very common misconception is that crossing a state line pertains to the 100 air-mile regulation. It does not. State lines are irrelevant to needing or not needing a log book. Maybe there was a time when crossing a state border required the log book, it does not now. State borders are nowhere in the 100 air mile regulation.

    Also, the odometer is largely irrelevant to the regulation. All that matters is the straight line distance, or sometimes called "as the crow flies", from the origin to the destination. If those 2 points fall within the 100 air mile radius, and you meet the other requirements, the log book is not required. In theory you could drive an unlimited distance if you stayed within the 100 air mile radius of the origin. Think of the grooves in a LP record. If you drove along the grooves your odometer would rack up the miles and you would stay within the distance from the origin.

    Lastly, the 100 air mile distance is actually a 115 air mile distance. Believe it or not, the definition of air mile used by the DOT is the nautical air mile which is 1.15 statute miles, the miles measured by your odometer. This is in the definitions section of the regulation.