Question about E-logs and H.O.S

I am looking at a new job that is a relay run. I would start at one location and drive 500 miles to drop the truck off to another driver waiting at a hotel. He would then run farther approx 5-6 hours to make drop and turn and burn back to me waiting(10 hour break) at same hotel. I would then run the same 500 miles back to where I started. The 500 mile run(both ways) which would take me through Chicago for an additional stop on the way should take me approx 10 hours to do on good roads. I have never had to run a log before(worked local delivery) and am not clear on all the rules. From what I understand, we are allowed to work 14hrs but only drive for 11hrs.

My question is considering I would be close to my 11hrs(on duty driving) as it is and I could run in to unexpected delays that could easily put me over 11hrs, how would I finish the run without having to stop short and have to take my 10hr break before getting the truck to the guy at the hotel waiting? If I knew I wasn't going to make the trip in my 11hrs, is there a way to split my day with a large break that would allow more than 11 hrs drive time? I would be using E-logs. I also would be off two days before I leave out and two days off after I get back.

 

You wouldn't..... the carrier made this run and he knows it works. It's set for max drive time at speed. Carriers plan for what is, not what might be.

Cooper does this all the time on LTL between hubs. My bud has enough time for one to go cup and a tee tee break and that's it. Relay guy is waiting on other end and FM calls ahead with departure times.

If stop or flat or accident delays you then you will call ASAP and carrier will adjust things to suit. Remember tho, this has been done before by someone else so it's doable under ideal conditions.

Never go over log no matter what....they won't be grateful and you won't be a hero. And no, you can't go over 11. There is an exception but it won't work here under your terms and may be forbidden by carrier policy.

That help?

 

don't forget your 30 minute lunch break. figured into your drive time equation.

that 10 hours is actually 10 1/2 hours.

 

The 500 miles and having 11 hours to run it is not a problem if you can avoid passing through Chicago at bad times and the weather is not real bad, but those days of heavy snow, possible road closures will cause delays to the point the schedule would get messed up. You can drive a few minutes over, but to drive 15-30 minutes over or more will be a problem if your carrier gives a crap about the eLog data.

I can easily drive 660-670 miles in a 65 MPH truck, given interstate travel and no snow/ice bad, so the 500 mile length provides about 2.5 hours of lee way per leg which in most cases should be adequate except for major storm systems.

 

Your 30 minute break must be logged off-duty .so that would bite into your 14 hour clock. ..you can still drive 11 hours but only have 13 and a half to get it in

 

i understand all that.

the op was talking 10 hours. and never mentioned a word about the break.

 

Here ya go. Interpret at your own risk.
http://www.fmcsa.dot.gov/regulations/title49/section/395.1

395.1(b)

(b) Driving conditions—(1) Adverse driving conditions. Except as provided in paragraph (h)(2) of this section, a driver who encounters adverse driving conditions, as defined in § 395.2, and cannot, because of those conditions, safely complete the run within the maximum driving time permitted by §§ 395.3(a) or 395.5(a) may drive and be permitted or required to drive a commercial motor vehicle for not more than 2 additional hours beyond the maximum time allowed under §§ 395.3(a) or 395.5(a) to complete that run or to reach a place offering safety for the occupants of the commercial motor vehicle and security for the commercial motor vehicle and its cargo.
(2) Emergency conditions. In case of any emergency, a driver may complete his/her run without being in violation of the provisions of the regulations in this part, if such run reasonably could have been completed absent the emergency.


Question 5: How may a driver utilize the adverse driving conditions exception or the emergency conditions exception as found in §395.1(b), to preclude an hours of service violation?
Guidance:
An absolute prerequisite for any such claim must be that the trip involved is one which could normally and reasonably have been completed without a violation and that the unforeseen event occurred after the driver began the trip.
Drivers who are dispatched after the motor carrier has been notified or should have known of adverse driving conditions are not eligible for the two hours additional driving time provided for under §395.1(b), adverse driving conditions. The term “in any emergency” shall not be construed as encompassing such situations as a driver’s desire to get home, shippers’ demands, market declines, shortage of drivers, or mechanical failures.

 

Yea 10/4 ..as in..instead of saying a 10 hour run it has to be a 10 and half hour run..is that what you were getting at ?? Man I'm on tard status sometimes..lol

 

The 30 minute break can be logged in the sleeper too.