Running teams - does your 70 hour rule still apply?

When you're running teams, does your 70hr rule still apply? Some ####### i know is arguing with me because he said if your running teams, you dont need 34hr resets and your truck rolls 24hrs a day. but how is this possible with the 11hr rule? Can someone with some experience shed some light on this and hopefully help me make him look like an idiot? I understand you drive 11, take a 10 hr break and you can drive again, so the truck does roll for 24 hrs a day occaisionally, but eventually your hrs will catch up and you wont be able to drive it 24 hrs a day. Correct?

 

Yes, the seventy hour rule still applies. There are no differences in the HOS rules for a team. The only difference is that you only need 24 hours for a reset since one of the drivers will already be 10 hours into a reset when the truck stops giving that driver a 34 only 24 hours later.

 

70 hr rule applies...advantage of running team is that you typicaly don't have to sit a full 34 to reset (well at least until the new HOS take affect) what this means is you can drive your shift..then take your first 10 in the sleeper while your teammate drives..then 24 hours after his shift ends your 34 will be up and the truck can roll again while your teammate finishes his 34 in the sleeper while the truck rolls

 

you and your co-driver both have 70 hours that you can work in 8 days. That is a total of 140 hours that the both of you can work and there are 192 hours in 8 days. So yes, teams still take a 34 on occassion.

However, they do not have to sit for the entire 34 hours. Lets say you are the last to drive before you both stop. If you drive 10 hours your teammate has already been off duty for 10 hours. So he will only need another 24 hours to complete his 34. When his 34 is complete he can drive for 10 hours and you will have completed your 34 by then. It's called a rolling restart and means a team truck only has to shut down for 24 hours not 34.

 

Yes, each driver of the team has 70 hours each and yes, a team can run out of hours, it ain't hard to do. Think of the simple math, the two drivers, combined, have 140 hours available (70+70), but there are 168 hours in a seven day week (7X24).
If you start out at midnight Sunday morning and neither driver shows any off duty time, during their 11/14 clock, the truck will have to stop, due to both drivers being completely out of hours at 8:00 PM Friday evening (24+24+24+24+24+20=140).

 

awesome information, thanks guys!

 

the truck never has to stop if both divers only do 10 hours a day. also if you use split logging.the simplest way is to just drive 10.even when you run out your 70 you can still get driving hours and gain back time on your 70 if you know how to use the log.

 

Yes, like all above stated! Course personally I don't think teams should have driving criteria. You should just drive until one person is tired and switch. This is the safest way possible to operate. When I first started driving you could run 5/5's but now you have to run 10-11 hours straight. How ridiculous is that!? 11 hours straight behind the wheel is a long time and 11 hours back in the sleeper is even friggin longer!!! Not to mention it is illegal for a driver to sit in the passenger seat while off duty or sleeper berth.

Sorry don't mean to rant!

 

It is legal, since February 2012, for the off duty driver to sit in the passenger seat for up to 2 hours, immediately before or after 8 consecutive hours in the sleeper.

 

Ya, they just passed that. Sucks though only for 2 hours.