trying to stay compliant...few ?????'s

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  1. grimesjm1

    grimesjm1 Medium Load Member

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    Long story short...a friend is hotshotting cars in a dually and wedge under his own authority with brokers license as well. he has no cdl and no employees. He is putting my tractor-trailer on to run cars for him. I've been a company driver but never owned a semi before. we are both kinda winging it as neither one of us know completely what all we need to do. here a couple couple questions to get started...
    1. I have a registrant DOT number that i used to get plates. He has his dot number and mc number on the door. who's dot number goes on the inspection sticker?
    2. He is putting me into a random drug test pool. Am I allowed to just go to a family dr. or statcare to get my pre-employment drug screen? as i company driver they always set it up, now i gotta do it.
    3. I have decent credit, but my llc is new. Who can I get a fuel card approved thru so I don't have to carry large amounts of cash?

    I will have more questions I am sure...these are just the pressing ones that I am trying to figure out at the present time. Thanks for the help!
     
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    MedicineMan Road Train Member

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    you use the DOT number that matches the MC number. your registrant DOT number is just for getting plates.


    Fuel cards are secured. meaning you put money on the card then you use it to buy fuel. it's not a credit account. You have to be a schneider or Werner practicly before they will give you a credit account
     
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    Fleet One out of Nashville, Tn. is a pretty good fuel card. You do need credit and they do an auto deduct from your checking account weekly. You pick the day they do the deduct. You get cash discount at most fuel stops. So, basically, you're getting credit for a week or so and don't need to carry boo-coo $$$$. You can also get com-check like checks to use for other things.
     
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    englewoodcowboy Light Load Member

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    This is exactly what I do. I also have comcheck for my drivers, same principal as fleet one but I do get some better discounts with fleetone at mom and pops over comcheck.
     
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    Got reefer? El Coyote

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    I imagine he will have to call his Consortium and set up a place for you to go. But you might not have to do pre employment if you haven't been unemployed for to long.

    Yea most fuel cards you gotta load cash on to. Except fleet one advantage. Some folks are using credit cards with good reward benefits but some will recommend against this for obvious reasons.
     
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    LoneCowboy Road Train Member

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    No
    you have to do a pre-employment observed drug test for every new company you work for. (just ask your local doctor they'll know. Are you an employee of his? or are you an O/O leasing to him?) and you'll need to be in a random drug test pool. (and you'll have to go to their drug test screen for this)

    if you're an employee, he has to do all this.
    if you're a contractor, you have to do all this.
     
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    Tankergirl80 GangstaGirl

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    No you don't, provided you can prove that you have been enrolled in a random drug testing program for the last 12mths, with less than 30 days in between switching programs and you have not tested positive in the last 12mths.
    I'll give you our situation as an example. We quit our jobs on 10/11 we enrolled in the consortium 10/13. At our old jobs we were in a drug testing program. You can give a form to your old employer to fill out as proof. (I have this form if someone needs it) However, they don't have to fill it out. So if you pizzed them off they may not do it, or you can do what we did and don't tell them what it is, just say "I need you to fill this out". They have to fill out the one from the consortium verifying your last drug test results but not this one.
     
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    Got reefer? El Coyote

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    Tests required

    §382.301 Pre-employment testing.
    (a) Prior to the first time a driver performs safety-sensitive functions for an employer, the driver shall undergo testing for controlled substances as a condition prior to being used, unless the employer uses the exception in paragraph (b) of this section. No employer shall allow a driver, who the employer intends to hire or use, to perform safety-sensitive functions unless the employer has received a controlled substances test result from the MRO or C/TPA indicating a verified negative test result for that driver.
    (b) An employer is not required to administer a controlled substances test required by paragraph (a) of this section if:
    (b)(1) The driver has participated in a controlled substances testing program that meets the requirements of this part within the previous 30 days; and
    (b)(2) While participating in that program, either:
    (b)(2)(i) Was tested for controlled substances within the past 6 months (from the date of application with the employer), or
    (b)(2)(ii) Participated in the random controlled substances testing program for the previous 12 months (from the date of application with the employer); and
    (b)(3) The employer ensures that no prior employer of the driver of whom the employer has knowledge has records of a violation of this part or the controlled substances use rule of another DOT agency within the previous six months.
    (c)(1) An employer who exercises the exception in paragraph (b) of this section shall contact the controlled substances testing program(s) in which the driver participates or participated and shall obtain and retain from the testing program(s) the following information:
    (c)(1)(i) Name(s) and address(es) of the program(s).
    (c)(1)(ii) Verification that the driver participates or participated in the program(s).
    (c)(1)(iii) Verification that the program(s) conforms to part 40 of this title.
    (c)(1)(iv) Verification that the driver is qualified under the rules of this part, including that the driver has not refused to be tested for controlled substances.
    (c)(1)(v) The date the driver was last tested for controlled substances.
    (c)(1)(vi) The results of any tests taken within the previous six months and any other violations of subpart B of this part.
    (c)(2) An employer who uses, but does not employ a driver more than once a year to operate commercial motor vehicles must obtain the information in paragraph (c)(1) of this section at least once every six months. The records prepared under this paragraph shall be maintained in accordance with §382.401. If the employer cannot verify that the driver is participating in a controlled substances testing program in accordance with this part and part 40 of this title, the employer shall conduct a pre-employment controlled substances test.
    (d) An employer may, but is not required to, conduct pre-employment alcohol testing under this part. If an employer chooses to conduct pre-employment alcohol testing, it must comply with the following requirements:
    (d)(1) It must conduct a pre-employment alcohol test before the first performance of safety-sensitive functions by every covered employee (whether a new employee or someone who has transferred to a position involving the performance of safety-sensitive functions).
    (d)(2) It must treat all safety-sensitive employees performing safety-sensitive functions the same for the purpose of pre-employment alcohol testing (i.e., it must not test some covered employees and not others).
    (d)(3) It must conduct the pre-employment tests after making a contingent offer of employment or transfer, subject to the employee passing the pre-employment alcohol test.
    (d)(4) It must conduct all pre-employment alcohol tests using the alcohol testing procedures of 49 CFR part 40 of this title.
    (d)(5) It must not allow a covered employee to begin performing safety-sensitive functions unless the result of the employee’s test indicates an alcohol concentration of less than 0.04.
     
  9. Got reefer?

    Got reefer? El Coyote

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    He said he is going to be running under his friends authority which in my understanding makes his friend responsible for the drug testing.