Vibration no one can find

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  1. hrdman2luv

    hrdman2luv Medium Load Member

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    This is getting too expencive and aggrivating.

    Stewert & Stevenson told me, after they ran my 2001 Freightliner Classic XL on their dyno, that I had a bent wheel. So, I had all the wheels put on a spin balancer, and found nothing.

    So far, I've replaced all the tires, drums on the drives, shocks, short shafts, Clutch, Pressure plate, throw out bearrings, fly wheel turned, U joints checked, carriers bearing checked, the transmission gone through, front differential gone through.

    I have one mechanic telling me that one of my axel shafts might be bent.

    Here's the weird part. It's like a wave that starts (I think in the rear) and is like a wave that goes all the way to the bumper, and back to the rear.

    Stewert & Steven's said, they could see the friggin wave.

    It feels like it vibrates for about 15 seconds and then goes away for a few seconds over and over and over.

    It doesn't matter if I'm pulling a hill, coasting down a hill, or on flat level ground.

    I have noticed that it's worse when I have a heavier load.
     
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    Call me insane but check your motor and transmission mounts.And make sure your harmonic balance looks good.
     
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    They don't call them freightshakers for nothing... Sorry too easy :)

    Anyway likely it can't be fixed. You're experiencing an insufficiently damped harmonic vibration from the suspension and frame design.

    If the vibration didn't exist when new you can look for worn parts in the suspension or frame, especially anything that pivots or absorbs energy. Also check for bolts that are "lose" or not torqued to spec (50 ft-lbs when they're supposed to be 100 will make a huge difference but you would never notice just by looking)
     
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    Along the lines of what I was thinking. But I have had worn mounts exacerbate the vibration.
     
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    this may be a dumb asnswer.you said you checked the u-joints,but waht about makeing sure the drive shafts are still balanced and trued?
     
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    Correct on that. A driveshaft can be slightly twisted and cannot be seen by eye. Take them out, go to a driveline shop, and have them put on the balance machine and ran up to 2400 rpm and checked for balance and trueness.

    Also, driveline angle is as important as driveshafts. Ride height can change angles greatly, causing a harmonic type of vibration. Each yoke and driveshaft have to be within a certain tolerance of degree to operate smoothly.

    I had a driver drop a clutch on my loaded truck. He slightly twisted the rear shaft. It looked perfect, but on the lathe it was horrible. I had a new one made that also vibrated. I took it back and watched as they ran it up to 1000 rpm and declared it OK. I insisted they go to 2400, as that was the it ran at. Around 2000 the lathe almost left the ground. Some extra weights on the shaft, and my truck was smooth as silk.
     
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    I had the exact same problem, only it was on a pickup truck. It drove me crazy. To make a long story short, they rebalanced my wheels,ended up putting twice as many weights that were originally on the wheels.
    My brother in law has the same rig you have with well over a million miles on it. I seem to remember, he also had a vibration problem, I'll give him a call and post if he has any idea.
     
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    hrdman2luv Medium Load Member

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    The drive shafts and the rear axel are the only things I haven't checked yet. Will be doing that on monday..
     
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    If that doesn't do it, check the harmonic balancer on the engine like Tazz mentioned. Your truck is old enough to need a new one if it's never been changed.
     
  10. hrdman2luv

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    Wouldn't you see the balancer bobbing, out of round, or something while it's on the truck? I've looked at it, as many people have, and they say it's OK.