Whats the better truck? And what are the top 2 Engines?

I know that Pete's and Ken's are the top quality trucks, they last long, good mileage, even a comfortable ride. But what about WesternStar Aren't they the next in line? If I wanted to drive or buy a truck for comfort and extreme power would I want a Ken/Pete or WesternStar? And what Engine would I want in it. I think my top choices are Cummins and Cat. I would just like a little more information on the trucks and engines please.

 

This should be interesting!

 

Cummins then max forxce then dd15. All the dd15s i driven have some type of check engine light on. And have broken down one way or another. My opinion to be honest.

 

What you're gonna hear is it's all in how you personal spec the truck. Aside from that, the differences between the three brands that you mentioned can be understood with a test drive and fifteen minutes rummaging around inside of each. As far as long-term reliability. It's all in the maintenance.

Where are you located? What are you typically hauling for weight? What are your lanes? These are all questions you're gonna have to answer if you want more than simple brand-loyal guys coming in here and telling you why their truck is perfect.

Considering you can spec all three to have a big motor... it's gonna come down to styling, interior options, reliability, and probably price.

 

Shouldn't we first discuss what shoes you should buy? Or what the best gps to use is? Or how many times a week you should be showering?

trollin......

 

The Maxxforce engine will bankrupt you before you even start! There is a reason they are cheap as hell and why a crap ton of them have so few miles on them.

 

What about boxers or briefs? Or boxer-briefs??!?

I'm so confused.....

 

Our company got rid of their Maxxforce cause they were so unreliable.

Check out the Western Star 5700EX

 

C15 ACERT I think would be the best engine. 625hp w/ 2050tq and its quality makes the engine last 1,000,000 miles until something were to go wrong, a little longer lasting and more power than cummins but I would choose a cummins over anything else if I couldn't have a Cat. Cummins will put out 600hp w/ 2050 but its reliability is up to 500,000 miles. Still pretty good in my opinion.

 

This is just from my observations and not experience.

The big problem with the EPA 2010 Maxxforce engine was the EGR only approach to reducing the NOX levels. On paper, it looks good. Increase the EGR duty cycle to reduce NOX thereby eliminating the need for DEF/SCR. Lower operating costs, right.?

Well...

The problem is cooled EGR is inherently sooty. I had that issue with my Jetta TDI. In the TDI the soot bonded with the oil mist from the CCV (closed crankcase ventilation) system that fed the blow by back into the engine (to meet the PCV requirement for emissions). What soot doesn't collect in the intake manifold goes back into the engine and what soot doesn't get sucked into the EGR goes out the tailpipe. Increased EGR will increase soot.

But with DPF, that soot gets trapped. Increasing the soot output consequently filled the DPF, requiring more regenerations. Next time you are on the road, note which trucks seem to be running a regeneration all the time, it's almost always a ProStar.

That's what causes so many problems in the ProStar with a Maxxforce, the DPF requires constant regenerations and frequent service for both the EGR and DPF systems.

Volvo is employing the European approach, reduced EGR to raise NOX levels, which oxidizes soot in the DPF at much lower temperatures and then treating the NOX through the SCR with DEF. That's why EPA 2010 Volvo engines don't run active regens on the road, the system cleans itself pretty good.

The European makers are even experimenting with no EGR systems and treating the NOX exclusively with DEF/SCR, which I think is an ideal approach to clean trucks, totally eliminating the troublesome EGR system.