WIA program might come to an end

ok, as a CVTA instructor, i get updates for the industry regarding training, and such for schools...this is a disturbing email i got just moments ago from the CVTA, regarding the WIA program to train people for truck driving........i hope it does NOT pass so that those that qualify for this program will be unable to get training paid for them, and will have to seek other avenues...

here is what they sent me:


Greetings!

CVTA has been active on two issues that could have a major impact on our school and carrier members.

First, the Association has submitted written testimony to the House Transportation and Infrastructure Committee which is holding a series of nationwide "listening sessions" on transportation policy (Copy attached).

The sessions are highly controlled, thus we were not able to testify in person. Lou Spoonhour will be attending the session that is to be held in Chicago on Sunday, February 20, and hopefully he will be allowed to present CVTA's testimony for the record during the roundtable portion of the hearing.

The testimony highlights the truck driving occupation, and notes that H.R. 1 (the continuing resolution for FY 2011) COMPLETELY ELIMINATES funding for training under the Workforce Investment Act.

If this bill passes and is ultimately signed into law, THE major source of funding for training truck drivers in many locations will be wiped out. We encourage you to QUICKLY write to your individual representatives and senators to express your views on this subject. Feel free to use any language that you wish from CVTA's testimony in your letter. CVTA will also be willing to assist in any way with contacting your representatives on this issue.

Secondly, the FMCSA Final Rule on Commercial Learner's Permits is currently under review by the Office of Management and Budget, and a Final Rule is expected to be issued before our Spring Conference.

Based on President Obama's directive to eliminate unduly burdensome regulations, the Association wrote to OMB to express the Association's concern with portions of the proposed rule. The letter was sent jointly by CVTA and the American Trucking Associations.

 

Best I say nothing,

hope you get your wish !!!

 

there will be a whole lot of future drivers not going to schools, unless they can get bank or student loans.....

and i might add, any other trade/career choice for the unemployed to choose to learn.

so much for putting americans back to work...

 

Who benefits more from WIA programs for trucking?

The prospective CDL driver or the CDL schools?

How many WIA recipients get the funds for schooling, then either opt out of trucking or get let go by the mega-carriers with-in a year or less?

I know at least two of my fellow students (out of 10) from a CDL school I attended in 09 that received WIA funds, that were back to being unemployed in less than 90 days.

 

both benefit...

by going to school under the WIA program, the unemployment office DOES NOT bother you and DOES NOT require one to do a weekly job search...

the schools benefit because they get students in who otherwise cannot afford the high tuition prices, let it be known, the WIA program DOES NOT pay for the full CDL course, (at least not in my area), the students get the "short course"......

as for you "friends" they probably never wanted to be truckers, they just wanted an "easy out" for a few weeks....God only knows i see that all the time.....no intentions of ever being a driver, just the intention of continuing to collect unemployment benefits...

 

"Short Course" What exactly is that? I know that the WIA recipients in my class attended the same course of training that I did. I guess it varies by state?

I didn't say "friends". I said fellow students. You seem to be assuming a great deal. What are you basing your allegation of

on?

Using a bit of a broad brush in that last part don't you think?

Additionally, my initial question was which benefited more.... That question still stands.

 

yes, state by state, so in my state, its the 'short course' (less hours)

they were your classmates, right..?? then you were "friends in learning"

nope

i gave you the answer from my perspective/view/past experiences...or did you not understand that as well..??

 

that one job a week thing is BS!! they do NOT check up on that. after you collected a certain time they make you fill out a form on top of calling each week, and you have to look for 5 jobs, put down the business, type of work, who you spoke to. that form is also a joke my friend put down his own phone number and made up business's every week. my friend was looking for a job, and he did find one, but he didnt write down what he was looking for. he just put down friends #'s and made up business's. some of them were quite stupid because part of the law was you had to look in different career's not just one. the whole idea i guess is getting you back to work as soon as possible. some of the jobs he made up were pretty stupid.

yep thats my friend for you! hahahahaha!!

 

I have read a bit and it seems since the large percentage of drivers that start out leave in a year of employment, that money is better spent elsewhere.

 

This program has both it's good points and it's bad. My brother-in-law is a prime example of what rich_t is talking about. The boy went to a CDL school, at which $4,000 of the $4,500 tuition was paid for by the WIA program. He has not touched a rig since graduation day. Then he ends up right back on unemployment shortly thereafter. How many similar stories are out there?

But at the same time I also see where the program is helping to put some Americans back to work. Not just in Transportation but in other fields as well. But one has to weigh the benefits against the expense here. Is the program putting enough Americans back into the workforce for the long-term to actually make a difference. That's the key.