What Have You Done As An O/O To Prepare For "CARB-2014"?
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I live amongst the dairy cows and the corn.....So what does that make me?
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Well well well, I see that our last posts were among those lost. So I'm gonna change my answer just slightly from what I said in that vanished post. You must be one of those six or seven!
And you may also be a cow tipper since you live out there!
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I forgot what my reply was last night.......Big Don said: ↑Well well well, I see that our last posts were among those lost. So I'm gonna change my answer just slightly from what I said in that vanished post. You must be one of those six or seven!
And you may also be a cow tipper since you live out there!
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What this CARB crap really is, is a redistribution of wealth. All the money/capital/income/wealth that I could accumulate by keeping my truck for a couple of million miles and improving its performance and fuel mileage will hence be redistributed to the truck manufacturers who will sell me my new truck and provide all the additional parts and repairs that it will require, the oil companies who will sell me the extra fuel it will require and the banks who will charge me exorbitant interest rates to finance the whole sorry affair.
The profits from all their endeavors will flow to the wealthiest few percent who already control the vast majority of wealth and income in this country while I will struggle to remain solvent.
Welcome to America, where we all soon be living like immigrants.Ranger Bob Thanks this. -
Ahhh, you maybe a bit off on this. State is all stressed because they don't have the budget fir CARB compliance.Stump said: ↑All state and government trucks do not have to be compliant. The firemen and emergency trucks complained that the trucks shutdown mid use to re-gen, so they are exempt. Makes sense, don't it. Also, all AG trucks that run only in the state are exempt to. That's why I don't care about there scare tactics. I won't worry about it until they put a gun to my head.
If I can register my truck at DMV with Cali plates, and have all my permits to run 48 states, and CARB gives me a ticket that says my trucks no good, I'll sue the DMV for taking my money when CARB says no good.Click to expand...Ranger Bob Thanks this. -
I'am sure that's part of it to. I heard from Landline Now it was due to the breakdowns, but i'am sure the state government does not want to spend the money either.BigBadBill said: ↑Ahhh, you maybe a bit off on this. State is all stressed because they don't have the budget fir CARB compliance.Click to expand...
i just wish more owners like myself would do nothing until they are fined. I still think CARB wont do anything come the first, but I have the money to make a move if they do.Ranger Bob Thanks this. -
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CARB Regulations - Is a Reality
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[TD] Written by Betty Plowman
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[TD] I once read that "Nothing ever becomes real 'til it is experienced - especially by you."
The reality of the CARB Truck and Bus Rule is finally hitting home to many and I'm now witnessing anger and frustration over the regulations that I haven't seen, in all areas of the state, ever. Apparently many "deniers" are finally admitting that the CARB regulations are here to stay (assuming our lawsuits are unsuccessful). I continue to hear comments like, "I didn't want to believe it was true" and "How can they take my property?" and many other ones that I can say here.
I know the feeling folks; we have lived it for seven years now.
What happens in Chico...
In late March, after completing my article for April's magazine, I headed north for a meeting held by Assembly member Dan Logue in his home city. Dan had invited the CARB staff to meet with local business owners (who owned diesel powered equipment) and explain to the good folks up north just what was coming their way.
I was asked to speak at this meeting and was told I would have seven minutes. How can I cover a seven-year battle in seven minutes? Undaunted, I made-up a bunch of notes and rehearsed my presentation and rehearsed over and over with the help of my stove timer.
So up to Chico I drove. When I got to the public building where the meeting was to be held, I saw a huge crowd forming. Shockingly, I ended up parking four blocks away. Encouraged by the number of pick-up trucks I saw (my kind of people). I concluded there weren't going to be many enviros this night. I also wondered - is it possible this many people are showing up?
Yes, it was standing room only for a room that had only seen eighty people maximum for previous important meetings (estimates are 350 to 400 people).
Here they were, farmers, ranchers, truckers and contractors, the absolute salt of the earth, trying to understand how one state government agency had the power to virtually destroy their livelihoods. Several were from five and six generations of farming families, trying to comprehend how what they and their ancestors had worked for, for so long, would quickly vanish with these draconian regulations.
No matter how many times I hear these stories, it is still painful, especially since I understand the scientific fraud and deception behind it all.
Many of you may remember Dr. Bill Wattenburg, who for many years had a talk show on KGO radio. Dr. Bill is a genius (he actually is an inventor, scientist, author, and radio talk show host residing in the Sierra Nevada region). He was the one who exposed CARB for another one of their boondoggles, the MTBE additive that was supposed to make our gasoline burn cleaner, but instead poisoned our groundwater. MTBE is like a diesel particulate filters (DPF) that are supposed to clean the air but instead burns down a truck, bus and anything near it like a forest and homes. His KGO program is no longer around, but you can listen to Dr. Bill live on the internet by going to Talk Radio Network from 8:00-11:00 on Sunday nights. His program is called The Open Line to America.
I am sure CARB will continue to be a hot topic.
CARB Enforcement Still a Hot Topic
I depend on you folks to let me know what is going on in your part of the state. Such was the case when Central Coast member Robert Dorazio saw a news report on his local TV station KEYT with the headline "Air Resources Board Cracks Down on Polluters." This report also stated that 124 trucks were inspected and 20 citations were issued on this first day. Enforcement spent a total of three days at this location. So for those of you who still not take this seriously, let this be a warning.
I also want you to know that for all those who have taken on this extra burden of compliance, the anger level is rising against those who continue to do nothing. The paperwork alone is a huge addition to workloads and may require the addition of extra office help, if you have more than three trucks - I'll bet it would be classified as a "Green Job" by Brown and Obama.
I understand it all; it's not easy to comply with these regulations in a segment of the transportation industry whose rates have been stagnant for a number of years as we continue our "Race for the Bottom." I firmly believe that a large percentage of our members have taken the necessary steps for compliance and are now forced to compete with the "do-nothings" who continue to work well below a sustainable rate. And remember who is in this enforcement "Chain of Responsibility", straight from CARB "All in-state or out-of-state motor carriers, California brokers, or any California resident including but not limited to contractors, public agencies and developers."
You have to love this CARB/government regulation, not only is it a huge financial burden on the trucker but they then expand the regulation's enforcement requirements (arguably illegally) and make the same industry at every level financially responsible (fines) for who they use. The regulations remind me of the popular bumper sticker from the 1980's which read "Don't Like My Driving? Call 1-800-EAT S#%T." The number now listed for CARB enforcement complaints is 916-445-0799. Not quite as easy to remember as the one from the eighties.
DPF Fires Still Are on My Radar
I am still interested in any truck or bus fires that may have occurred in your area. Two major fires occurred last month, a school bus from Chino Hills on the 57 on March 28th and a tour bus on I-80 on Easter night. Both drivers reported these fires started in the engine bay but I have yet to learn of the cause. Perhaps I have been watching too much CSI, but I would think we could get some kind of a definitive answer on the exact cause someday. Apparently, because neither of these incidents had fatalities no one seems to be interested.
CCTA Board Meeting in Oakland June 8
I look forward to seeing many of you at our June Board Meeting to be held in Oakland on June 8. We hope to have a representative from CHP there to discuss the Commercial Vehicle Safety Summit (CVSS) which will be held in Ontario, Ca. (DoubleTree) on September 26.
The winners of the STAR (Safe Transportation Achievement Recognition) awards will be presented at this time. It would be great to see as many of our members as possible apply for this prestigious award. The application can be downloaded at the CHP website and is due on or before August 15. CHP is well aware of the fact that many in construction trucking may feel that their low-mileage will exempt them this from this award, but I've been assured that this is not the case. If you have a great company safety record, I urge you to submit an application regardless of your mileage.
In closing, I would like to finish with this quote from Aldous Huxley: "...reality, however utopian, is something from which people feel the need of taking pretty frequent holidays...."
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[/TABLE]Big Don Thanks this. -
I went in today to speak to this so called retrofit rep, I wanted to inquire about the costs associated with it.
Cost's: 11 to 13.5K, if I didn't have it, they need you to sign over your truck to finance the amount. Also, every unit is different and requires a unique unit, so the cutoff date to have your system ordered is Sept 1, 2013, otherwise you have no guarantee it will be installed by Dec 31, 2013.
The fines have already been defined and published, they are $1,000 per day after Jan 1, 2014. Calculate your cost's if you get pulled over or go through the coop around March. That makes them some real SOB's in my book. -
While Im quite sure I will NEVER enter Cali again in a commercial vehicle--if this Jan 1st deadline is truly inforced--then IMHO--there are gonna be a million out of work Cal based companies--judging by the Cal trucks I see back east every day--spent 3 hours in philly yesterday near the old market--cold storage 10 doors 7 cali trucks and trailers--all 7 weren't worth the FUEL I had in my Pete--and this is a trend we have all been noticing over the last few years--the amount of Cal based plated junk just boggles my mind-and NONE of this #### could possibly meet the current carb rulings--really makes you go HUH?biofumes said: ↑I went in today to speak to this so called retrofit rep, I wanted to inquire about the costs associated with it.
Cost's: 11 to 13.5K, if I didn't have it, they need you to sign over your truck to finance the amount. Also, every unit is different and requires a unique unit, so the cutoff date to have your system ordered is Sept 1, 2013, otherwise you have no guarantee it will be installed by Dec 31, 2013.
The fines have already been defined and published, they are $1,000 per day after Jan 1, 2014. Calculate your cost's if you get pulled over or go through the coop around March. That makes them some real SOB's in my book.Click to expand...Ranger Bob Thanks this.
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