Hot Shot write offs

Discussion in 'Expediter and Hot Shot Trucking Forum' started by Greyhound4, Jul 26, 2012.

  1. Greyhound4

    Greyhound4 Bobtail Member

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    I have a one ton truck and will soon be buying a trailer in order to start hauling hot shot loads. I have a friend that says I can take advantage of his insurance, fuel cards etc. Basically run under his trucking company name. He would charge me a small percentage for helping me get started, find loads, help with paperwork etc. It all sounds great, but how will repaying him for insurance and fuel affect my ability to write these things off of my taxes? Should I look for my own insurance etc? May be hard to find due to my lack of experience. I have hauled a 41 foot 5th Wheel around for a couple of years but no experience in the trucking industry.
     
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  3. M818

    M818 Light Load Member

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    You need a tax man to help with those questions, but if it is your business, usually all the dollar expenses you pay, like reimbursing him for fuel and insurance, are deductible. If your gross is x and you have to pay a percentage to your friend, that is also an expense, like a fee you have to pay, and comes off too for which there ought to be a receipt of some kind. You really have to ask a tax accountant about these kinds of things. I have a business and my taxes are done for $100 each year. I make a spreadsheet from my receipts, credit card statement, and checking statements, based on how much money came in, and where it all went. He decides how each amount is deductible, what category, even like a new keyboard for the PC or a box of pens, or meals, and won't deduct it if it is not appropriate. He finds every possible deduction. Can't go wrong with a pro. Stay out of IRS trouble too.
     
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  4. RickG

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    You do need a CPA or enrolled agent to handle your taxes and you need a contract because what you will be doing is running as an I/C under his authority .
    Shippers will have to pay him as the carrier.
    You will not be paying him a percentage. He will be paying you the percentage specified in the contract .
     
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  5. Greyhound4

    Greyhound4 Bobtail Member

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    Thanks for the helpful advice. I do need to get a CPA to make sure I do this the right way. You guys are also correct in that he will be paying me minus his percentage. He says I can use his fuel card to get a better price. I almost prefer to get my own fuel card so that everything is clean. He can get paid, turn around and pay me less his percentage. Simple math, easy to figure, and no hidden fees. We will have a contract to make sure that there are no misunderstandings.
     
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    What is a typical rate per mile charged by hot shot haulers? I know it can vary. My friend tells me it is around 2 to 3 dollars per mile according to what is being hauled and how fast it needs to get there. Does that sound about right? I have the one ton dually with a heavy duty gooseneck hitch. Any suggestions on what type of flatbed trailer to buy? I figure there must be some good deals out there right now on good used trailers. I am just getting started in the whole process and I want to get my arms around this thing before I invest a lot of time and money. Thanks for your help!!
     
  7. RickG

    RickG Road Train Member

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    Loads should be $2 or $3 a mile but many are less than that.
    I see a lot of stepdeck trailers . You can haul taller loads and more vehicles than you could with a flatbed.
     
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  8. SHC

    SHC Spoiled Rotten Brat O/O

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    He is going to be running a 1T pick-up, so he's basically stuck with a flatbed type trailer I think.
     
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  9. PRGA78

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    Def needs a CPA...they find some great stuff for u!
     
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  10. Motownfire

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    That depends on what type of freight you will be hauling. When you say "Hot Shot", in the trucking industry that refers to oil field equipment hauling since that is where the term is derived from.

    What type of freight will you be hauling? If it's oil field then the standard trailer for a one ton is a 40' flat bed gooseneck (no dove tail). If you will be hauling other types of freight then the type of trailer you will need is dictated by the customer base you will service.

    Absolutely get in touch with a CPA that deals with the trucking industry. Our CPA has dealt with small trucking companies for a few decades now, he is worth his weight in gold.



     
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