I think that when they first got the money back then it was used to put the Webascos(?) in all the trucks. They did purchase some rig master units to see how they held up(Not too good I hear). Now they are steadily moving forward putting the tri pacs on the trucks. I think that tri pac is one of the few things I miss about Roehl. Good to see you back Rum, don't be such a stranger.

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HOW CAN A STRANGER TELL IF TWO PEOPLE ARE MARRIED?
You might have to guess, based on whether they seem to be yelling at the same kids.

Thanks for the info Cheryl.

Yes I do wish all my rants were 100% accurate. However from time to time I will be off and appreciate when I do get corrected.

That rant was based off some loose information I received, and had a difficult time proveing or disproveing. Figured a post here would bring out the research hounds.

My initial gut feeling was that the rant was weak and at best covered the wabasto heaters (acknowledges Mo Family Man)

So once again thanks

Now lets get the research hounds fired up again.... Here is my question. What is Roehls turnover rate?

When they are doing good it is around 80%. Nominally it runs right around 100%.

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HOW CAN A STRANGER TELL IF TWO PEOPLE ARE MARRIED?
You might have to guess, based on whether they seem to be yelling at the same kids.

You're welcome for the info. Only reason that I knew about it was after reading about it in the newsletter last year I was curious so I researched it. I couldn't find anything (about a 1m grant) nor do I know anything about the Wabasto heaters...I know our 03' had one, as did every truck we had after.

I asked about the turnover rate (a trusted source) and he said what MO Family Man said....at any given time it's between 80% & 100%, but he did add that right now it's about 90%.

Ok, so now lets focus on a 90% turnover rate.

I know and understand that there are many reasons a person may quit driving. Not home enough, not enough miles, not enough money, not cut out for the job, got involved in something bigger than they thought, etc.. etc.

Thoose are NOT the drivers I am focusing on. The ones I would like to talk about are the drivers who leave Roehl to go work for another OTR company.

Roehl has the abilty, but lacks the agility to correct minor problems at just about every level. Examples are directions, dispatches that do not allow you time to even look at the load, poor support when things go wrong with a load, payroll issues, STAA routeing issues and others.

It saddens me to meet a one month "Black Hat" all excited about his/her job. Ready to take on the world. Excited about the truck and ready to get the job done at any cost.

Six months later the hat has turned gray, complaining about just about everything I have ranted about.

There is nothing that I have ranted about that is not an easy fix.

90% turnover rate. Insane. Is Roehl sinking to the depths of JB and Schneider. How many can remember when Roehl did not have to advertise for drivers? How much longer can we hold onto the respect we have earned from fellow drivers?

I know this isn't a rant, just makes me sad and wonder why I stay with Roehl myself. I want to be proud of my job. I want to be proud of my truck. I want to be proud of our mechanics. I want to be proud of my DSR. I want to be proud of our customer service. I want the shippers/cons to know that the job will be done. I want our sales people to have confidence and respect when they do a sales pitch.

Guess I really don't have to many choices left, just a basic question to ask myself. Why work for a company that has it's ears open but does not bother to listen?

I was very strongly thinking of going to work for roehl. how ever rum as made me rethink. maybe there is no good company out there. I believed after reading many post on this site roehl was the best of the worst. now I see maybe they are just as bad as the rest. I even got approved to go to school just had to pick a date. I also asked my Driver Employment Specialist. about the turn over rate. even though roehl is below the nation avg. 75_90% is still very high. at any rate this is the reply I got from roehl.

The OTR turnover rate here is closer to 75%, and you have to remember that "turnover" doesn't necessarily mean leaving the industry. A very large percentage of turnover are people who are going job to job to get bonuses, or they think if they go somwhere else they'll have be paid more per mile or maybe get a local or regional driving position. Just something to think about...Give me a call back if you change your mind.

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A life spent making mistakes is not only more honorable, but more useful than a life spent doing nothing. --George Bernard Shaw, Irish playwright

Something you will learn is that all truck drivers complain. Find out how long a driver has been with a company and go by his actions, not his gripes. I would recommend Roehl but with qualifications.

1. They are a bit anal about keeping an eye on what you are doing.
2. Like all companies, they are only as good as your dispatcher.
3. Recruiters tend to stretch the truth.
4. All truck companies lie.
5. Truck companies don't value their drivers, the best you can hope for is that your goals and the company goals are the same. If that happens you will get along fine, if not it will be a very bad relationship.
6. Companies are interested in their trucks making money, it doesn't really matter who holds the steering wheel.

In my case Roehl is a good fit because of the 7/4, 7/3 hometime + fleet. It is a pain to slip seat and my truck parks 100 miles from my home. I do it because of the hometime. This is a good deal for Roehl because the truck rolls almost constantly. It is a good deal for me because I have quality and predictable time at home.

One more thing to consider, one of the top reasons drivers leave a company is not looking for bonuses, it is because of a poor dispatcher.

Roehl is serious about driving legal and my experience is that you usually have adequate time to make the delivery. I don't hesitate to tell them a delivery time won't work if there isn't enough time.

I don't remember Roehl ever not advertising but they seem unusally intense right now. The large part of the turnover is the less than six month crowd. It used to frustrate me to no end to see somebody I spent time and effort training quit. I especially hated the ones that quit for such trivial reasons. Guys getting frustrated that the directions they received were hopelessly outdated. Guys not getting home on the days they requested. It was insane to say the least. I remember the first driver survey they did and what did we gt out of it? Towels in the showers. I just have a hard time believing that a plurality of the drivers all said the biggest issues was towels. Even if it was we were treated to the usual half azzed approach. We get sheets of 80 grit sand paper to call towels. They were absurdly small but the icing on it was the stupid note to only use one. Way to tackle that turnover problem. Have they even said anything about the second survey? Last I heard they were reviewing the data...what six months ago?

It is a shame. I don't know what happened to my company. For about five years I was the happiest driver on the planet. The next three I tolerable. My last two were just exercises in futility. I should have left sooner but stayed out of a sense of loyalty to my dispatcher. He was a great guy that really seemed to be fighting a losing battle to keep us happy.

It is funny though that I ended up at a company where turnover is non existent. Every day I am meeting guys that have been here 15-20+ years. It is a laid back atmosphere that kinda reminds me of what I once had. Rum you may appreciate this but these folks paint their trucks just like the old Campbell's soup can Roehl trucks. Rollin' the two tone once again!

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HOW CAN A STRANGER TELL IF TWO PEOPLE ARE MARRIED?
You might have to guess, based on whether they seem to be yelling at the same kids.

Preacher Man "Something you will learn is that all truck drivers complain."

So what are we always complaining about? Do we have unrealistic issues? Is it to much to ask for the correct directions? Is it to much to ask for the proper STAA routeing? Is it unfair and unreasonable for us to be home on the day we were promised? Is it wrong for us to complain about sitting for 3 hours only to pick up the preloaded trailer that we have been sitting next to? Is it rude of us to complain about the condition of the company car in Gary?

Are theese issues acceptable to you? Or am I just a complainer, whiner, snivler, poor sport, bad attitude, or any other name you can think of?

I read your statement that all truck drivers complain and take offense to it. Truck drivers is what makes this company and if you don't help me by bringing up theese issues and others then you are not doing your job. If you don't speak up how will theese issues ever get resolved? Unless of course you just don't care about your fellow drivers.

1. They are a bit anal about keeping an eye on what you are doing.

I Agree.

2. Like all companies, they are only as good as your dispatcher.

Bad statement: read my rant you and your DSR.

3. Recruiters tend to stretch the truth.

Never haveing used one I can not make a statement.

4. All truck companies lie.

I would change this to Trucking companies will tell you what you want to hear at the time.

5. Truck companies don't value their drivers, the best you can hope for is that your goals and the company goals are the same. If that happens you will get along fine, if not it will be a very bad relationship.

Very good statement

6. Companies are interested in their trucks making money, it doesn't really matter who holds the steering wheel.

Reserve my comments on this one

In my case Roehl is a good fit because of the 7/4, 7/3 hometime + fleet. It is a pain to slip seat and my truck parks 100 miles from my home. I do it because of the hometime. This is a good deal for Roehl because the truck rolls almost constantly. It is a good deal for me because I have quality and predictable time at home.

Reinforces your #5 statement.

One more thing to consider, one of the top reasons drivers leave a company is not looking for bonuses, it is because of a poor dispatcher.

I agree with the reason NOT being bonuses but in Roehls case it is not poor dispatching but is bad load planning. Roehl's dispatchers have zero control of your load assignment.

Roehl is serious about driving legal and my experience is that you usually have adequate time to make the delivery. I don't hesitate to tell them a delivery time won't work if there isn't enough time.

This is going to be a future rant. so will be brief.

Preplan rec 15:00. Load picks up 16:00 60 miles away. not really enough time to even look at the load is there. This is not an exception. seems more like the rule. I will give you proper due for covering yourself about sending in a non commit if time is not available.

Preacher Man, I know this looks like a personal attack but trust me it is not. Ask yourself this question which works better 1 person complaining about things that should be fixed or 1800?

bobfiore, I have read your statement several times. I went back and read a large ammount of your other posts also.

My thoughts are conflicted. I know I should try to point out some good things as well as bad things that I have experinced. The items I bring up are some of the rough spots with Roehl. I can not, will not, nor will never lie or mislead another driver. It does sadden me that our company has chosen not to address the issues that I have ranted about.

My personality does not allow tollerence for people who are unable or unwilling to do their jobs in an effective mannor and instead choose to have unending list of excuses why they can not do the job they are ment to do.

Is this just a Roehl issue? no. But at one point theese issue were not issues at all. I wish that the worst issue we had to face was towels in the shower room again.