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CSA 2010: The data

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It seems like nowadays everywhere you turn, some group, business or government entity is collecting data on you.

Credit agencies record your every financial move. Grocery stores track your every purchase with their “shopper cards.” And now FMCSA is going to collect every single mark made on your inspection reports –for both the company and the driver – and from crash reports.

FMCSA will calculate the safety performance of motor carriers – which includes owner-operators running under their own authority – based on seven Behavioral Analysis and Safety Improvement Categories. Those seven categories, dubbed BASICs, and the federal regulations they relate to are:
  • Unsafe driving (Parts 392 and 397);
  • Fatigued driving (Parts 392 and 395);
  • Driver fitness (Parts 383 and 391);
  • Controlled substances/alcohol (Parts 382 and 392);
  • Vehicle Maintenance (Parts 393 and 396);
  • Cargo related (Parts 392, 393, 397 and hazmat); and
  • Crash indicator.
Data from those seven areas will be collected from inspections and crash reports.

Things will change dramatically in how information from inspection reports is handled. While the current system only calculates a compliance rating based on “out-of-service” and moving violations, that won’t be the case with CSA 2010. All violations included on inspections will be entered and considered– no matter whether it was an out-of-service violation or not.

Another significant change from the current enforcement system is that FMCSA is aiming to hold companies and drivers equally accountable for their roles in safety and performance. So CSA 2010 will also be collecting data on individual drivers.


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CSA 2010: The math

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Truckers know that getting cited for having improper window tint isn’t nearly as serious as falsifying logbooks and violating hours of service.

Fortunately, the Federal Motor Carrier Safety Administration officials claim they understand that, and all inspection violations will not be treated as equal in the new CSA 2010 enforcement program. Without getting into a bunch of computer or mathematical jargon, simply put, some violations will do more damage to a motor carrier’s or driver’s profile than others.

For example, old violations will not hurt your record as bad as newer ones. Violations shown to create a bigger risk of crash involvement will count heavier.

FMCSA also recognizes that even good drivers or good companies may have a bad day with a horrible inspection. The data will be limited as to how much damage one poor inspection can do to a company or driver’s record.


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Can't wait till 2010 to get here.

I had a level 1 in Missouri Tuesday.

Got another one in Indiana today. Told the officer I had just got one. She took the info off the other one and did the inspection rather quickly.

Paperwork has the wrong times on it. Shows it as 45 minutes long when it was less than 20 minutes.

If I log it to match the document, I have completed a false log.
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A fair system from the government?

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Can't wait till 2010 to get here.



Paperwork has the wrong times on it. Shows it as 45 minutes long when it was less than 20 minutes.
i had the same thing happen in nevada. same time frames.
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i had the same thing happen in nevada. same time frames.

What did you do?
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What did you do?
i haul hazmat and have onboard gps. i have to log exactly where the truck is at all times. so i logged it as it really happened.
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i haul hazmat and have onboard gps. i have to log exactly where the truck is at all times. so i logged it as it really happened.
That is exactly what I did. I am attaching a note to the document and log that states the facts involved.

I will sign the note declaring that I will not log to match the DOT and create a false log.
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The only thing you could do is log it to match what they wrote and burn the time off elsewhere. Otherwise they'd use the inspection reports to "prove" you "falsified" your logs later on.
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The only thing you could do is log it to match what they wrote and burn the time off elsewhere. Otherwise they'd use the inspection reports to "prove" you "falsified" your logs later on.
i cant do that. GPS would prove what happened.
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