HOS rules

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  1. Mitch1179

    Mitch1179 Bobtail Member

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    My home terminal is memphis,tn i live in Clarksville,Tn can i PC home if released
     
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    ZVar Road Train Member

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    From the terminal yes. From the receiver no.
    At least not and follow the guidance.
     
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    SoulScream84 Road Train Member

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    Where in the guidance are you getting this? The guidance simply states
    . Where it starts and ends is not listed.
     
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    I can't help on this one, I can how ever tell you how not to use it. With land star you can not use it to go home....my bad landstar it was only a 4 hr ride
     
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    Yes you can. It does not have to be from your terminal.
     
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    ZVar Road Train Member

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    Personal Conveyance: Frequently Asked Questions | FMCSA
    May a driver, who drops his or her last load at a receiver’s facility use personal conveyance to return to their normal work location (i.e. home or terminal?)
    No. Returning home or to the terminal from a dispatched trip is a continuation of the trip, and therefore cannot be considered personal conveyance.

    Personal Conveyance | FMCSA
    Examples of Uses of a CMV that Would Not Qualify as Personal Conveyance
    7.Time spent traveling to a motor carrier’s terminal after loading or unloading from a shipper or a receiver.

    Note the faq clarifies that terminal does include home if going from the receiver. Basically FMCSA sees from the receiver to the home as the last leg of a dispatched trip, so on duty.
     
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    drivingmissdaisy Road Train Member

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    You're misreading that, ZVar.

    It says can you use PC to return to their normal work location. Home isn't your normal work location, or is not the "normal work location" of the OP of this thread assuming that he isn't going home to get a new load. It's saying IF you work from home can you go there PC from the last receiver and that would be no, that's like returning to the yard PC. You can't do that.

    But yes you can go home from the last receiver PC if you are not advancing the load or advancing a loaded or unloaded trailer toward a dispatched shipper or receiver.
     
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    ZVar Road Train Member

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    It is if the op normally parks their semi at home. Yes I'm making an assumption, but it's a fair one to make I think.
    Most people park their truck at or near home then is dispatched from there.
     
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    But that is NOT their normal work location. They are dispatched from there when coming back in the truck because that is where they are leaving from. They can't help that. Unless HIS HOUSE is the shipper or receiver, he is not WORKING THERE. If his house is not where he normally works from then absolutely he can PC to his house. Everyone does that. If he is not being paid to return to his house and he is not under dispatch and is not advancing his trailer, then absolutely he can PC.

    Once dispatched, and they are paying him to move the trailer from his house TO A SHIPPER, then he must go on duty leaving his house as AT THAT POINT he is advancing an empty trailer toward a shipper. But that doesn't make his home his "normal place of work."

    Heck, on a side note, if his job says that he is to return to the receiver that he left PC to pick up another load, and they won't pay him for that as they can decide not to, then he can PC BACK to that receiver again leaving his house as he has not advanced his trailer, just returned the trailer to where it came from as if it never left.

    You are wrong about this, I'm sorry.
     
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    ZVar Road Train Member

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    Well, the couple people who posted here getting citations must have been lying then....
    Just because you want it to be legal doesn't make it legal. You need to read what is written, not your bias on it. It specifically states going home after a receiver cannot be PC. Period!
    But believe what you want. Just don't tell others what's legal when it's very black and white that it is not.
     
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