Glad to hear of at least one company that actually shows some regard for their drivers back there. I drive for DHE..they have the same concept of safety for their drivers and for their equipment...haven't had one single issue with dispatch over HOS or legal running...if we say we can't, we don't, and they reschedule the freight..no if's, ands, or but's...or it will be the dispatchers but-ts!
10 hour break in a day cab?
Discussion in 'Trucking Industry Regulations' started by Wicked Wizard, Feb 5, 2010.
	
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	I've gotta wonder, after having spent many nights in the desert sleeping on the bench seat of my ol' '74 Chevy pickup... 
 Is there anything in the regs *specifically* barring the easy conversion of the daycab to sleeper? I know there are dimensional requirements, but if the cab is wide enough, it seems like someone could come up with some way of engineering a simple and quick conversion. Maybe a folding bed platform with a self-inflating mattress, window covers, etc.
 
 Just an idea... I'm not real conversant with that section of the regs.
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	Sleeper berth requirements... 
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	Ah, thanks. I was on my way there when your post showed up. In other words... there doesn't seem to be any real reason you can't come up with a way to make your cab a 'legal' sleeper berth, if I'm reading it correctly. Obviously wouldn't work for a team operation, but so long as your cab meets the space requirements, and your folding bed has at least a 4" mattress, you'd be good to go?
 
 Some of the driving I'm looking at doing in the future wouldn't require much of a sleeper, if at all... and it'd be more of an expedient thing rather than a long term 'home'. One of the vehicles I'd considered was an FL112 with an integral 30" "sleeper"... which looked more like a crew cab with a bed in back; a familiar setup for hotshot drivers.
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	You make a Hotshot sleeper berth legal... 
 
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	This is not meant to be an offense to our resident officers. But many of the DOT that I've run into are completely unable to think outside the box. I think its a requirement to be a gooberment employee. They are not allowed to think for themselves. Unless you are a politician there is only black and white, no shades of grey. 
 Save yourself the hassle of standing at a scale or the side of the road trying to talk an officer into your line of thinking that is questioning your use of sleeper on the log book. Its highly unlikely he'll buy your line of reasoning and want to write you multiple tickets surrounding the issue.
 
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	You can't sleep in a day cab to get 10 hours off duty statis , but the hours of service rule states that you can drive for two extra hours to get back to your term due to weather conditions that you did not know about since you knew about the storm you can't do nothing your co will have to get you a hotel room.
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	As mentioned any time in the vehicle is technically on-duty driving. Therefore, technically you cannot take a 10 hour break in the day cab.
 
 The adverse driving condittion only applies to the 11 hour rule, it does not release you from the 14 hour rule:
 
 Be safe.
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	I got in trouble for logging line 2 in a daycab once. Hehe. See, i was driving a daycab to pick up a sleeper-equipped truck, both are EOBR equipped so i sent in a form message along the lines of "Load split at drop yard. Now going to line 2". Then I logged off that truck, and guess what, I dont have keys for the other one. I then went to a hotel. I didnt think to log back onto the daycab and fix it. 
 
 I meant it as in "going to the sleeper of the truck that is equipped with a sleeper". Then i never logged onto the sleeper truck. So i got a warning and talked myself out of a log test with the cool guy in the log dept. If i would've had to talk to the ##### i wouldve probably quit....
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	As dumb as it sounds, sleepers are required to be usable while vehicle is in motion. Water and air beds have to have enough air or water in them to keep from bottoming out while driving. You are also required to have bed belts. I think a mean DOT man would give you a hard time.
 
 Also what you are talking about would block the back window which is a very useful part of driving a daycab
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