A train doubles weight question

My guess its legal in AZ, but l know ut & co it is not

 

Hey. Thanks for all the replies. Some interesting stuff here. I'll try to address some of it while I have a second or two.

 

Really ?? You're not worried about slamming on the brakes on a slippery road ? I'm not being a smart ###, it's just that I've always tried to have the heavy pup on the tractor for control.

 

My tractor is 18,000. If the weights are within 1,000 of each other, then I'll just put the pups together thru convenience versus weight. Anything over 1,000, I'll put the heavy on the tractor. Old habits I guess.

Up here, the scales don't care if the heavy is front or back. So long as the gross is ok and the axels are ok and the overall length is ok, the leave me alone.

 

Yeah, 2,000 wouldn't even really worry me ...... now 20,000 ...... that might be a problem for me !

Jump around like fish, boy, no kiddin there ! We all have bad roads, but I have one bridge I have to go over every night and we call it 'speed bump bridge' ..... well I hit that bridge with an empty pup on the back just as a good gust of wind came over the bridge. I hit the bump and put the pup in the air and I swear it swung around far enough for me to read the 800# on the side of it !!!!

 

I guess ya gotta do what ya gotta do ..... but I personally woulda stopped at the next WalMart, or whatever, and changed 'em back around.

 

Hitch connections: A-train: single pintle, B-train: fifth wheel, C-train: double pintle. A- and C-trains may have a dolly/converter, or the front axle(s) may be integral to the trailer.

 

You can't insult what never was ! LOL !

The term is Canadian in it's origin I believe. In Canada we have A Train doubles, which you are correct, 28 or 30 foot doubles.


We have B trains and Super B trains, which are heavy doubles, and married units where the second fifth wheel is mounted to the lead trailer.


We used to have C train doubles. Those are where the dolly either had a double lunette that attached to a double pintle hook, or stability bars on either side. I haven't seen a c double in years. I don't think anyone runs them up here anymore.

We also have LCV's, or Long Combination Vehicle. That's the tractor and double 53's. They run this set up in NY and a few other states, and most of Canada. AKA Super Turnpikers.






As for the rest of what you said, I agree. I'm pretty meticulous myself, and I deal with a lot of slippery and frosty roads, let alone snow covered. I have a very heavy tractor ( mine ), and fairly sturdy, decently maintained trailers ( theirs ). I like the weight up front, where it should be. However, like we all agree, pup weights are notoriously wrong on paper. I WISH I had a platform scale to test the pups out on, I have to do it by feel here. Oh well, maybe when they build the new hub we might get a scale.

 

Hey UPNORTHWPG and NOT4HIRE ........ guys .... I didn't mean to jump on your explanations ..... I didn't even know they were there ! Sorry. I just started on the previous page and started replying myself !

 

Increase the "pucker factor" a bit there?