Abilene Motor Express....A New Place To Call Home

Discussion in 'Discuss Your Favorite Trucking Company Here' started by JohnBoy, Apr 10, 2013.

  1. MidWest_MacDaddy

    MidWest_MacDaddy Road Train Member

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    And you are entitled to you opinion.

    I just can't imagine getting half of a trip payment every other day and then reconciling it with the balance every week... You are making work for yourself. But that's fine with me... ;-)
     
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    I can't imagine any job in America exempt from minimum wage standards but trucking is , one of the last piece rate pay industries in our great land , Where it's ok to borrow a mans' time and money and not compensate him . It's easy to reconcile debit and credit . Thanks
     
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    Thinking we make more than minimum wage in trucking... And several people are exempt from Minimum Wage... Wait Staff work mainly for tips... Sales People are paid commissions. Street Walkers are paid by the truck and dope dealers are paid by the ounce. Not a single self employeed person gets paid by the hour. I would have to double check but I don't think our military men and women are paid by the hour either.

    I have not had the Minimum Wage rules apply to me personally since I worked in college back in the 80's. And I am making more in this profession than I made in any job since college.

    And how are we paid piece rate... I agree that how much we make is calculated by CPM but I get paid to do a job... From hooking a King Pin to Bumping a Dock... And for that I get paid... Just happens the further I drive I get a bit more change from that job.

    If we were to be paid by the hour we would have everyone being micromanaged to death.

    We are a decentralized workforce... Paid by Time is simply not a viable option from a management point of view... It's much too easily abused ... And frankly I doubt many drivers want to be micro managed every hour they clock.

    But again, you are certainly entitled to your view.
     
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    You hit the nail on the head with this one, Jonkie.
     
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    Regarding driver compensation. How about if U were paid Ur current cpm and in addition U were paid a hourly wage for everything not on the driving line of Ur logs. The hourly wage must be no less than min wage. This would now compensate U for all the time spent doing the things currently done for f
     
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    Now the companys would be motivated to get the shippers / receivers to get U in and out.
     
  8. Jonkie

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    It's not my ' view ', it's the history of the economics of trucking . It started when FDR exempted OTR transport from federal minimum wage standards so as to provide enough bodies that would work 70 plus hours a week servicing the nation during a food crisis . Look up the Federal Aviation Adninistration Act. Well

    We no longer have a food crisis . If you work for any freight hauler ( abf , ups, yellow , OD, etc) they are paid to drop , to hook , to pretrip , to post trip because a mileage contract is piece rate ( the piece being the distance driven ).

    The Gonzalez holding has been followed by federal district court cases involving truck drivers. For example, in Con-Way Freight v. Quezada, the court held that the employer had to pay drivers for non-driving tasks, such as vehicle inspections and waiting time. The fact that the employer had included that time in its piece-rates was irrelevant: Under California law, non-driving time must be paid at a separate hourly rate that meets or exceeds the minimum wage.

    If you're ok with that , cool , not trying to change your mind , I'm just frustrated by the acceptance of it
     
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    I never said that you were the only one to hold that view. And there are other views out there too. Trying to track the time of a decentralized labor force just adds complexity to the model that is unnecessary and burdensome.

    But to each his own. Peace.
     
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    That's just it... There wouldn't be an "in addition"... If they break out the non drive pieces and paid those separately, they will then simply lower the CPM to 5 CPM plus minimum wage for non drive activities.