Add on DPF

In all honesty, trucks engineered, designed and factory built with DPFs have a hard enough time with them!!! I would not recommend adding one to a truck that was not designed for it.

 

One of the brokers I haul for have installed the retrofit on all there CAT engines. NOT one engine has failed due to the DPF. On the other hand, 2 DPF have failed But not the engine. These were the first DPF's install over 3 years ago. The DPF's have improved since they first where introduced to the market, but few have shut there doors cause of the failures. HUG Engineering is the best in the market as of now. I had the R-50 install that will handle 600+hp with no problem and more.. So far its been working alot better than I expected. I did my research and homework to conclude what was going to work for me. I have gross at 80k and the truck performs the same as if it wasn't there. To the OP, the mileage I have not check. I have to wait till my next fill up. I do it old school to check my mileage( pencil, paper). BTW, The shop that install mine built a New Glider with a 06 CAT in it and a DPF with it. The rumor going around is CARB might let the retrofits go lifetime once to O/O's once everyone goes compliant. If so, they will be lot more gliders in demand here in CALI to get away from the newer troublesome emission engines.

 

You speak so highly of the retrofit but you don't know the fuel mileage gain or loss from adding a dpf to your truck? How can we believe your longevity claims if you still need to wait for the first fill up?

 

My install is only a week old. I will post mileage soon as my next fill up. I run locally so I dont fuel as often as most. I speak highly of the retrofit cause I have no choice being in California so I look at the positive side but Im not crazy about the idea so I live with it also I dont want the newer emissions engines. HUG Engineering have a 5 year warranty on the dpf. As far as longevity, the trucks I know of have had only had the installs about 3 to 4 years.

 

UPDATE: I checked my fuel mileage, 6.9 mpg with the DPF R-50.

 

I would recommend 100 percent getting an addon dpf. The add on systems installed on a properly tuned engine work great. The way they are doing them now they install a datalogger on your exhaust to get a reading on your engine's exhqust temps. This allows them to properly choose a unit that will work best with your particular engine. The previous company I was with was pressuring us to get compliant so many of the owner ops there upgraded to newer trucks with factory installed dpfs. I went and bought a 2008 w900l and got rid of my Freightliner fld with a c12 Cat. My brothers both put dpfs on their trucks. One has a n14 red top the other has a c12 cat. 2 other owner ops with 6nzs and one with a 2012 coronado Glider with a 12.7 detroit retrofitted as well. The range on the systems was from $15k to $19k. The highest being for one of the peterbilts with the 6nz because he wanted to keep the stacks working instead of running a weedburner and dummy stacks. He also had a box installed to replace the factory peterbilt step box as his dpf box.

In just the first year, those of us who upgraded to newer trucks suffered downtime and costs related to emissions systems alone ranging from $5000 to around $9000. (No price included for lost time or work but that would make the impact considerably higher) the Isx's had the usual turbo, egr, actuator blah blah blah.. my cat had sensor lssues and dpf grtting clogged issues, bad ard head and horrible mpgs. In that same year the other trucks suffered maybe a .2 to .5 mpg drop over all while still managing to average better over all than any of those equipped with factory emissions systems. This was hauling flatbed loads and being pretty much 80k gross all the time. No adverse side effects. All these owner ops including my brothers and myself take very good care of our equipment yet only those who retrofitted seemed to avoid getting into the shop all the time or getting towed. the retrofit guys just had to bring in their dpfs every 4 to 6 months to be baked and cleaned. That is only like 500 bucks. Nothing else has really changed.

If i were to do it again I would have retroffited my old 2000 freightliner in a heartbeat Rather than buying something new and being stuck with a payment. Sure the 15k may be worth the same or more than your old truck but if you like the truck and know that it is in great shape and it does what you need it to do I would really consider retrofitting. After all if your truck is payed off that 15k is a write off.

Sit down and look at the numbers i was running a truck getting and avg 6.2 ifta mpg to getting a truck with a 5.2 ifta mpg. Just the repairs on the emissions systems alone would cover the cost of the dpf retrofit Over the next 2 or 3 years and that would not count money lost due to crappy mpgs. unless you buy a brand new truck you run the risk of having other repairs like tranny clutch and rear ends on a used truck, these are all things you may have done to your good old truck already. Sure a brand new truck may yield better mpgs but warranty does not cover nor reimburse for downtime. They also cost 120k to 160k versus and old 20 to 35k truck with a great running pre emissions motor and a 15k retrofit.

To keep uncle sam off your back you can just modify that truck and keep it polished or take some time off with the family while the guys in the new trucks sweat over the 2800 a month payment.

 

^^^^^^^^^^^I couldn't have said it any better ^^^^^^^^^^

 

6.9mpg hauling local???! Tell me your secrets!

 

Nothing to hide about that. A 5EK CAT born 435, Flash to a 1LW 550 BS pre low nox, and changed FLS/FTS, and top it of with a B/W stage 1 turbo for quick spool up (works wonders in stop and go). But most important "Grasshopper"......, It's all come's down to how heavy your right foot is, and know when to use it when you need to get up and GO..........