Airlines reportedly consider weighing passengers to conserve fuel

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  1. WildTiger1990

    WildTiger1990 Heavy Load Member

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    Why American Airlines CEO Doug Parker wants to be paid less than peers at United, Delta

    American airlines CEO - made more then 12 000 000 for himself
    United CEO - 18 000 000
    Delta CEO - almost 13 000 000 salary,
    But it's average american fault that they so fat , that airlines need to charge extra money for weight....
     
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    Small piston engined and turboprop aircraft have more critical issues with weight than you think. A decade ago, when I took some aviation training courses, in addition to the fuel, passengers, and baggage weights, we even had to include the weight of the MOTOR OIL in the crankcase-that’s how serious weight and balance is for small aircraft. Some of the worst aviation accidents involving small aircraft happened because the plane was overweight.
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    Anything you put on a heavier than air aircraft adds weight,for which you have to compensate by balancing out or removing something else in turn. Fuel,baggage or possibly,you!
     
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    What does CEO pay have to do with the fact they want to charge by weight? The majority of overweight people got there by their own doing. And it’s miserable being seated next to them. I’m all for paying by weight as long as it’s proportionate and fair for people across the board. Obviously someone large enough to need to buy multiple seats the price per pound would have to reflect that.
     
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    I bet you the guy who was happy when airlines started to charge money for checked bags, and fee for picking a specific seat
     
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    I will absolutely pay to upgrade my seat. And who checks a bag anymore?
     
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    The Datum is the same on all airplanes. They have a specific location on a airframe of any kind that goes into the sky as the balance point of lift.

    Everything that goes into any plane big and small has to be considered, Sometimes with Military planes anything that falls out also has to be considered for balance etc.

    The C17 lifting 700,000 pounds in a 100 degree day has the same lifting problems as a wee cessna as you call it. Just scaled bigger. As long everything is in balance is not a problem. Almost like we balance our trucks to be legal on weight as well as keep the ride a certain way for our benefit.
     
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    Im sorry I run Southwest air when possible As preboard (Deaf) I get first pick of most seats in the plane generally at one of the exit doors for the most leg room and usually asked to mind the door if we are still alive after coming downstairs out of the sky.

    I am not a very good pilot I have wooden hands. However I know how to follow a map, flight plan, DME etc where and when availible. It is a boost when the pilot says theres the field where we are going approximately the time that we are supposed to be in view of it.

    I don't regret not really following up on the pilot side in my life again due to wooden hands but we have a field that is relatively updated and a instructor who has no problem providing basic instruction (Again) to me for a fee. A bit of ground school focused on the objective and then the flight itself. I find it to be a intellectual exercise in problem solving on several layers. And getting off the earth to touch the face of God when the weather is fantastic is something everyone should do at least once.
     
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    Exactly.
    With aircraft you have to think “four dimensional” due to the four forces that affect aircraft performance:Lift,Weight,Thrust & Drag.
    It’s not like dealing with a Ford Explorer,you can’t just load it up and go-it doesn’t work like that. A lot of behind the scenes work goes into prepping aircraft for flights-how much fuel is required,how many passengers,how much baggage/cargo,the speeds calculated for takeoff,climb,cruise and landing,not to mention optimum fuel burn.
    And that’s just the tip of the iceberg.
     
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    With that in mind I’m just glad jetBlue still exists. If they were still around I would’ve given Virgin America a chance.
     
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    My dad fits fine he is only 1 inch shorter.
     
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