Do you know that $2,535.00 profit could go into your Pocket???
You weren't actually getting paid $1.50 a mile.
NOT WHEN THEY'RE PAYING YOU BY BOOK MILES.
You can't go by Actual miles. Figure out you're per mile by the book miles and see what you're really getting paid by mile.
Another scheme to Nickel and Dime a Driver !
It Took your Truck 68.3% of the gross settlement to Run That Load.
It shouldn't be that way!
It use to be around 70% to the driver, and 30% to the truck!
< sorry, I mean, that's not being leased to a company.)
But now add that $ 2,535.00 back onto your settlement and what percentage do you get? Close to 70% right?
Every truck is different , so you would have to figure all the different costs that it would take, to Run and Operate your truck.
Anyone worked with "Broker-Free Freight"?
Discussion in 'Ask An Owner Operator' started by Gweko, Jan 31, 2009.
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But here's what I do (to include my wife if she calls on a load)....Ask about the particulars. We still have the right to say that dreaded two-letter word...NO or we can be more polite and say "NO Thanks, that load and the rate just does not fill my needs".
Nothing should be for free.
Diesel is not free...tires are not free.....Insurance, authority, permits, and taxes are not free. Why should we give away anything unless we receive an extended compensation such as a long term contract?
For those bottom-feeders out there.. I hope they continue to "pay" to haul someone's freight. Eventually, they'll all go broke and those of us who are professional will have the upper hand and prove the moral that "You get what you pay for".
We should all be just just biding our time...working on "survival mode" and when all of the bottom-feeders and the greedy brokers are shaken out...We'll all be ready to hit the freight harder and satisfy the shippers needs better than the aforementioned "scumbags" of the trucking biz.1pissedoffdriver and Gweko Thank this. -
I need 2.00 a mile to run the truck to make a ''profit''....
anything below that is ''chump change'' and working for free...
yes every truck is different,but the very least is 1.80 a mile to run a ''business'' at cost per mile....there is no way around it.well theres a couple ways around it,in a dream world...like ''dedicated no deadhead..
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An O/O with a a rig that is paid for has a lower "break-even point" than an O/O who still has a mortgage on his or hers rig.
Let's not confuse "profit" with "break-even point".
The "break-even point is income that "pays" for everything to include your salary. Anything that goes above and beyond is "profit".
Your salary is NOT A PROFIT!
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My contention is that yes the drivers are doing it for free, but the shippers are still paying for it. The money is there somewhere.
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I by no means am telling people i make the ''big'' money.I am the opposite and telling people this is the ''real numbers,not fantasy...
Until LANDSTAR ups the rate to $2.00 a mile and less deadhead to get the loads then i am not in the red..
Until landstar pays the ""actual miles"" and not ""book miles"" then i will not see red.
LANDSTAR'S NEW TRICK IS THIS...ROLMFAO
On the load board it will say the deadhead to get the load is 290 miles...follow me?
Well i no for a fact from jersey city to buffalo ny is (actual) 440..why?..I ran dedicated for 5 years from jersey city to buffalo..
This is there new trick now...lmao and guys take it thinking its 290..Its crazy...
These are very good points i say to LANDSTAR and they dont care..They will say this to the drivers.Its there product,they can market it any way they want to..In which they can...
They wonder why i sit and refuse to move anywere...I refuse to work for pennies..BUT the truth is the others are...sad but true..
I am not a ''desperate dog'',I AM A TRUCK DRIVER...MAMA DID NOT RAISE NO FOOL..Working Class Patriot Thanks this. -
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Ron, you say...
"An O/O with a a rig that is paid for has a lower "break-even point" than an O/O who still has a mortgage on his or hers rig."
I hear things like that all the time...I just don't get it. I mean...what is the difference whether the truck is payed off or not??? OK now, the only difference is if your intention is to drain out the good that is still left in your truck for some shorter (couple of years) period, spend the extra earned money and then quit trucking.
Otherwise...even when truck is payed off you need to keep on making the same kind of "payments"...this time into your savings account towards the purchase of the new truck once the first one gets worn out. Doesn't that make any sense???
Why so many people is forgetting about that???
What do you guys think the companies get their moneys to renew the fleets? Or at least for money down?
I blame very much the big always greedy companies (jb hunt,swift,schneider,marten...you name it) who widely generate new "business owners" (out of guys who literally very often don't know even the basic mathematics...the other day a chatted a bit with an o/o at the trkstop...he said his truck AVERAGES 5-9 mpg depending on the weight. I repeatedly asked about the average and he cofirmed that the AVERAGE is what he is talking about!!!!) by lease-purchase options. Besause "they WANT US to succeed"! What a bunch of crap. Besides, they lost almost any criteria any more just in order to put something in the seat of their truck. I used word something instead of someone on purpose...I guess you know why.
Above said helps truck driving profession gaining worse and worse reputation building at shippers, brokers, trucking companies and others one general opinion how truckers are mostly just dumb, stinky and dirty peebottle-throwers.
That is probably also one of the reasons why they dare to push the rates so low these days. I mean...how do you convince a quite uneducated guy to say NO TO CHEAP FREIGHT??? Too many of them don't even know how or for some other reason don't read the weekly settlements at least to figure out were they payed for all the trips they performed.
But, because of being that way companies just love having them around.
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That's crazy. An average is never a range. It's a number somewhere IN the range.
This is why I tend to shrug off a lot of the doom and gloom of my impending failure. A lot of these people who try really just never should have. -
That'll will be $2100 that goes into the profit margin rather than the loss margin.
For the O/O, the expected life of a rig can be up to 20 years or better, well that was until CA's CARB regs...but I digress. Engines can be rebuilt, the same with trannies, and rear-ends. if you take care of a new rig, it will take care of you for a lifetime...unless you're IRPed from CA and that is a different story altogether.
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