Aside from wooden snow fences, why doesn’t WY build snow barriers right next to I-80?

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  1. buddyd157

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    i could be wrong, but i think what really ended the tolls, was when a tanker crashed into one of them, killing some people.??

    my history isn't as good as it used to be, i have to try and google that reason.
     
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    here it is, yes it was a deadly crash that made them take out the tolls...

    Abolition of tolls[edit]
    After a 1983 truck crash that killed seven people at the Stratford toll plaza, toll opponents pressured the State of Connecticut to remove tolls from the turnpike in 1985. Three years later, these same opponents successfully lobbied the Connecticut General Assembly to pass legislation abolishing tolls on all of Connecticut's highways (with the exception of two car ferries across the Connecticut River in Chester and Glastonbury). While the 1983 Stratford accident was cited as the main reason for abolishing tolls in Connecticut, the underlying reason was that federal legislation at that time forbade states with toll roads from using federal funds for road projects. Because the Mianus River Bridge was rebuilt with federal highway funds following its June 1983 collapse, Connecticut was required by Section 113(c) of the Federal Aid Highway Act of 1956 to remove tolls from the turnpike once its construction bonds were paid off.[15]

    The debate over tolls on the Connecticut Turnpike did not end in 1988 with the abolition of tolls. Prior to their removal in 1985, the tolls generated over $65 million annually. Since their removal in the late 1980s, Connecticut lawmakers have continuously discussed reinstating tolls, but have balked at bringing tolls back out of concern of having to repay $2.6 billion in federal highway funds that Connecticut received for turnpike construction projects following the abolition of tolls.

    During the economic recession of the early 1990s, legislators studied reinstating tolls on parts of the Connecticut Turnpike and portions of highways around Hartford to make up for budget deficits. Proposals for reinstating tolls were scrapped in lieu of implementing an income tax and increasing the state gasoline tax and sales tax, and imposing a new tax on corporate windfall profits.

    Continuation of toll debate[edit]
    With continual budget woes in Hartford, the idea of reinstating tolls resurfaced in January 2010. State Representative Tony Guerrera estimated a $5 toll at Connecticut's borders could generate $600 million in revenue. Governor Dannel P. Malloy expressed pessimism that toll revenue would be spent exclusively on infrastructure repairs, but a need to generate additional revenue, paired with decreases in traditional highway funding sources (such as federal aid and gas tax revenue) means the idea could receive serious consideration in the state legislature.[citation needed]

    Connecticut Turnpike - Wikipedia
     
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    Richmond used to have tolls on 95 early in my trucking.

    Take a bag of change every morning. Like 5.00 worth dimes, quarters and nickels.

    One toll barrier is at or beyond the end of a particularly steep sharp S southbound. Getting out of that S, come off the speed and start braking rather in a determined air application to get the big ##### stopped at the barrier was a bit of work. Remember I was routinely overweight in containers. That 100K permit had no meaning.

    .25 cents. After 5 here 10 there 25 somewhere else. UGH.

    I think they had a horrible crash there one day and removed all of them And got started on I-295 which was a royal blessing when first built.
     
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    In fact upon deeper reflection I remember booms of crashing slamming into the cement barriers at that one barrier and two others several times a week when north bound.

    BOOM.

    Radio lights up. And tally the hurt and dead. Most of the time everyone wants to know if the toll girl is ok. Shrugs.
     
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    although, as mentioned by someone earlier, there is no more a need to stop at toll plazsa, just drive on thru with EZ Pass or whatever is used.

    of course, cameras will still be taking pictures of the front, sides, and rear or toll scofflaws, who will be captured in due time, and get a huge penalty....like these jerkweeds.

    Pennsylvania’s worst turnpike toll evader to pay up

    $1M E-Z Pass scofflaw arrested on way to Aruba: police

    Maine Turnpike Authority says truckers are racking up unpaid tolls
     
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    I don't mind the transponders. That stopped the cash burn every week for me. I would burn anywhere from 50 to 150 weekly in the NYC bridges. And this was back when it was 10.00 something to get across.
     
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    yeah, i think it was mentioned some time ago, to cross any of the bridges in NY, now is like $90...????

    i think it is best to have an account set up with ez pass (or whatever), much easier to transfer funds into that account, automatic receipts of where the money is and where it went. no worries of pilferage from the drivers.
     
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    If you build a barrier right next to the road then the snow will drift on the road.
     
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    The GWB is going to be 'cashless' very soon...as are a bunch of other tolls in the general area...all the need to do is mount the sensors and cameras overhead and bingo, it is a toll road.
     
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    I wonder.

    If you heated snow fencing and piped the water to a collection point to be treated...

    It could turn into a sort of a winter crop for wyoming to export water in times of increasing trouble getting water.

    All you need between buried collection pipe and fence is a big strong french drain system.
     
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    At least they didn't try the scheme that NJ attempted in Orange, large hill near I-280 they repaved with 'experimental' paving that contained a deicing compound...

    First good rain and cars were sliding out of control, bumper car chaos...milled off and repaved within a couple of weeks...
     
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