brokers, riddle me this ?

I haven't moved a load for CH Robinson since the day I got burned on a insurance claim.
Double brokered load that was delivered and because it was package in cardboard the product looked wet. The product was sealed in plastic and totally dry. China plywood. When the insurance money was paid I asked what ever happened to the so called damaged product. The insurance company said it was sold.

 

Way to stick it to em!

 

That $3K gets eat up by the truck possibly leaving a few peanuts for the driver. This is assuming there was ZERO deadhead - which almost never happens. You're no different than any other broker out there. Very few of them have ever seen the inside of a truck let alone have a clue what it costs to roll. That load was no good. It matters not that someone will take it. Nor does it matter if they did $3-$4 per mile on the trip out to CA from the east coast. It still sucks but suckers are born every minute.

 

Thats very true, I cant give you a list of what you pay for when it comes to a weekly breakdown of costs but i cant see 3k being eaten up entirely after cost of fuel. If you can get that lane done once per week that is an operating income of $250,000 per year. I cant believe a truck cost $250,000 per year to run.

 

If my aunt had a **** she'd be my uncle. The average cost per mile (according to a link from indursty publication someone posted in another thread) is at $1.60 per mile this year, down from a $1.71 last year. That's just an average. everyone's is different. Some are more, some are less. For your typical one truck or small fleet their cost is more than someone with 50, 100, or 1,000 trucks. That load with no deadhead is a total waste of time and money. With deadhead over a 100 miles it's costing money. Would be much easier and wiser to find something else, prefereably with less miles, a much better rate per mile, burning a lot less fuel. For every "good" 2,800 mile dry load like that one there are probably a hundred more that will move for a $1.50 a mile, less if they're "lightweight". I wouldn't want to have to replace tires or equipment on rates like that. Not sustainable at all long term. Does not cover any of the truck's deadhead cost - of course brokers only consider loaded miles but that's why the shipper pays you the big bucks to cover loads. It's not so you can rake 35%+ off the top.

 

Nobody got stuck with anything, if you don't like my rates then find someone cheaper....

 

No you definitely stuck it to them. I wouldnt like your rates, I would find someone less expensive. But then when we do, you still complain. If you dont like that CH wont pay your rates, find other freight!

Thank you for proving my point. It is a free market to try and get what rates we want, from both sides of the load.

 

Gee, really? Cause they called asking if I had a truck available.......

You can try, and I don't fault you for trying, but then who's attempting to stick it to who, here?

I voice my opinion, and in my opinion you rank right there with TQL. This is a drivers forum, if you want to hob nob with brokers why don't you create a site called, "The Brokers Report?"

You must not be paying attention, cause finding other freight is what I do. I get annoyed when I post a truck and some goof at your brokerage has the audacity to call up offering the same rate that everyone else has been turning down all day.... But, whatever, some people figure it out and some don't, but you'd think that if you couldn't move that Queens load at $5,100 that at some point you realize....

A) We're going to have to come up off of the money.

But for some reason the answer seems to be

B) Hey, let's call this guy who has a truck posted and see if he'll do it for that $5,100 we've been unsuccessfully shopping ALL DAY.

I prove that point on a daily basis.... that point being, other brokers will pay better than the kids over at Cheap and Heavy.

 

Where to start?
-They called because they had trouble covering the load, they have to call out to people which means a higher rate. vis a vis: stuck it to them
-Attempting to find something cheaper is not sticking it to someone, booking them for peanuts is.
-This is a truckers forum, doesnt mean truckers dont complain, I was stating the hypocrisy of your argument
-If you are finding other freight so easily, why you mad bro!? Can't fault guys for trying to continue to book a load at profit and not roll over.
-Final bullet point, Perfect! I'm super glad you book with other brokers, i would hate to have to deal with you or have to pay those high rates if i didnt have to.

Everyone is going to have their opinion but everyone has the same goals... book freight, make money. I wish you good luck with both.

 

You misunderstood, and I should have been more clear; they were calling to ask if I could cover additional loads for them..... you see, I may not be cheap, but I do provide exceptional service. I'm early, rather than late, and if they ask for twice daily check calls I update them three times a day....and I never, never, ignore a phone call from them, my valued customers.

Booking for peanuts is exactly what CH does, it's how they earned the moniker "cheap and heavy". Don't take this personally, if you're one of the brokers who pays exceptional rates for exceptional service then I'm not talking about you.

Hypocrisy? I posted something I found to be a good larf..... A CH rep calling to ask about an available truck and offering a lowball rate, like she was the one with leverage at that moment. (Ironic hmm?? Amusing and annoying at the same time)

I got no worries mate, I just post it as I see it.... and yes, it's annoying when I put someone who has at least some clue on hold to see what the incoming call I'm getting is offering.... and the incoming call is some clueless CH rep who actually thinks a lowball rate is going to fly in a truckers market. Now, if I were calling CH on a Monday morning, then I would not be at all surprised by a lowball offer....but looking to waste my time with a ridiculous solicitation late on Wednesday afternoon really is annoying.

Really? So, which is it? Is it "sticking it to them", or understanding the market and getting compensated accordingly? You seem a little inconsistent....

I guess if you're used to shelling out peanuts, the idea of actually paying someone a rate that allows them to receive a ROI, cover their costs, (and not just the fuel, but all of the costs), and make some decent income commensurate with the risk of being a business owner, instead of a CH employee.... then sure, it might seem like I'm sticking it to you.

You always have the option of not accepting the rate.

But understand this, if I offer you a fair rate, and you decline it, I'm going to hang you by your ankles and shake every last dime out of you when you call back an hour later wondering if I might still be interested in your load...lol...

And that, my friend, is sticking it to you.

Likewise. Have yourself a pleasant evening.