Can a "felon" get a break?

I forget what state I was in recently, but the gov had a huge billboard stating that:

Littering is a FELONY!

I just had to roll my eyes. They spend all that money trying to describe how serious an offense it is, and all they accomplish is complete and total dilution of the impact of what a felony is these days. Pretty soon no one will care anymore. You can't just legislate stigma. It has to mean something.

 

omg this thread is so funny especialy the guy who thinks that if you have ever had an arrest you shouldnt be able to drive! alomost everyone of the "old school drivers" had an arrest on thier record. so all that food you was crammin in your mouth was more than likely delivered by a criminal. hmmm i wonder if they all still have their license. lol keep it going, i was laughing so hard i spilt my coffee!

 

omg sorry for that mess up of my reply,,i was just wondering if the company you currently work for is hiring? i have had no luck cuz of my 7.6 yr old felony...need a job bad- thanks

 

lets see that argument hold up in a court of law. Granted i've had tickets for speeding, but when i say 'law abiding citizen' it is used as a figure of speech....i.e. for those who dont have criminal histories.

You found someone to hire you? great. Hope you get out of it everything you want.

maybe not you, but other posters have implied it.

was it really? i believe i said "...what about maning up, and facing the judge for what you've done? You think one should be able to beat the !#$% out of someone then not have any responsibility. Every action has a cause and an effect." You disagree with that?? If so, geeze, i hope i dont ever run into you at a bar....cause i sure would hate to get into a fight with you, then see you crying to the officer about how unfair it is...again.

ME not understanding the intent of the post...i believe the title of this thread speaks volumes. I see a felon crying about not being able to get a fair shake, blaming employers for looking at criminal history and tossing that applicant asside.

Again, great you found a job........just stay out of the bars.

 

BoDarville01:

Still don't get it do you!

You state:

"... for those who don't have criminal histories."

A bar fight does not constitute a Criminal History. A criminal history, loosely defined, is: A demonstrated pattern of repeated criminal activity. Pharmphail makes note of a State in which Littering is a Felony. I guess you would say that in that State, were a person convicted of Littering, he/she would then meet the definition of a Criminal (with a Criminal History, no less) Can't have someone like that driving a truck, they might "...drive up on a sidewalk, run over some children."

You state:

"...what about manning up, and facing the judge for what you've done? You think one should be able to beat the !#$% out of someone then not have any responsibility. Every action has a cause and an effect." You disagree with that??"

Are you serious? The entire matter has been adjudicated. Oh, by the way, not only did this man "face the judge for what he did"; that judge, based on the facts of the case, saw fit to strike the conviction from the record.

You state:

"ME not understanding the intent of the post...i believe the title of this thread speaks volumes. I see a felon crying about not being able to get a fair shake, blaming employers for looking at criminal history and tossing that applicant aside."

That's right, YOU!!! You're definitely more than a few fries short of a Happy Meal! You're stuck on the title, which was very poorly phrased. If you took the time to read the posts you would find the following to be at the heart of this thread. Paradimethyl opened this thread by stating the following and asking for advice:

"...I attended a 12 week truck driving school and earned my CDL with HM/tanker/double/triples endorsements...Now I find out that because I... have a felony assault on my record (and my inexperience), none of the companies I have applied to are interested in hiring me. I have 24 years of serving my country in uniform, a college degree, a 130 something IQ...I went back to court in 2006 and the conviction was STRICKEN, so the courts don't even consider it a conviction, but apparently every trucking company in America does.

"So... did I waste 12+ weeks trying to get into this industry? Or is there someplace that can look at the total person and not just what happened on one crappy day long ago?"

Mgassel replied (incorrectly, I might add) with a degree of ignorance roughly equal to your own:

"Yes you wasted your time because you will find it will be next to impossible to get a job driving a truck when you have a felony."

Now, understand, this Forum serves driver's, aspiring driver's, and the interested public, in a common goal to better this industry in which we have chosen to follow. It is done through a group effort by advising, encouraging (NOT discouraging) those who are struggling, and sharing our various experiences. I, personally, never cease to be amazed by the breadth and depth of experience and the generosity of those who so freely give of their time to give assistance to those drivers who represent the coming generation of drivers, just as they, no doubt, were given assistance when they aspired to become drivers. So, it just really pisses me off when bigoted, ill-informed, pretentious, and arrogant people come along spreading venom. Now, you have every right to do so, if that's what rings your bell. But, at least have the decency to support your accusations with quotations (am I repeating myself?)

 

Paradimethyl:

I hope my posts don't make you uncomfortable. Understand that: I am not fighting your battles; nor, do I feel it necessary that I take on your defense due to any lack of ability to do so yourself. In you, I see a classic example of an otherwise solid citizen who made a mistake. Often, police responding to a bar fight simply classify it as "mutual combat" and instruct the participants to "Go and sin no more". This guy Bodarville01 is a classic example of an attitude of ignorance and intolerance. He questions ones right to be considered his "equal", twists the facts to suit his arguments, and feels he has a God-given right to judge everyone but himself. No doubt he is a lonely guy.

Congratulations on the job! You deserve it; and, NOT in spite of your past---But, because of it!!!!

 

people make mistakes, thats how we learn .
just some have to pay more "stupid tax" than others LOL
glad ya found a gig man!!

 

okay...so explain "work history"?? you dont have any work history if you've only held one job then??

Like when you open your first checking account starts your credit history, so does getting convicted of a felony from "just a bar fight".

try to argue your way out of that.....