Can drivers be forced to quit for being too old?

Discussion in 'Experienced Truckers' Advice' started by Zonno, Nov 12, 2023.

  1. gentleroger

    gentleroger Road Train Member

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    When has something being illegal stopped a company from doing what ever they wanted? It's only really illegal if:

    1. They get caught
    2. They get prosecuted (criminal or civil)
    3. The penalty is severe enough to change not just policy, but practice.
    Remember that wage theft is greater than all other property crimes combined. There is no doubt in my mind that age discrimination happens in our industry- it may get dressed up as something else, but it happens.
     
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  3. buddyd157

    buddyd157 Road Train Member

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    age discrimination is everywhere.....

    every job i apply to and none of them are trucking, i am discriminated against.

    but, i gotta prove that.
     
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  4. REO6205

    REO6205 Road Train Member

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    What are they?
     
  5. gentleroger

    gentleroger Road Train Member

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    • Bona fide occupational qualification
    • Future advancement
    • Small business
    • Senority system
    • Benifits reduction (provided the cost does not fall below the cost of younger workers)
    • Pension of at least $35,000 (that might be higher now, it's been a decade since I've dealt with this)
    Then there are "reasonable factors other than age that 'just happen' to correlate with age". IE age discrimination under the guise of something else, which makes it entirely legal.
     
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  6. Hpozzuoli

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    Definetly should be tested at certain increments.
     
  7. Tug Toy

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    A lot of guys around here haul gravel and hoppers well into their 80’s. Usually not full time but if the works there they will show up….. as long as they’re not in Florida….
     
  8. Lennythedriver

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    I used to train and work with interns from UNC. I did that job for three years. Not really going to mention the type of position it was, but I probably worked with about 150 interns over those three years.

    All I can say, is if I was in a position to pick who I hired? I would have no issues hiring older generations of people. Lol I’ll let you fill in the blanks as to why. My mind was literally blown away with how lazy those young folks were. They don’t even understand what work ethic is.
     
  9. roshea

    roshea Road Train Member

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    Big one is insurance company makes it a requirement, just as they do for minimum age which has been 23-24 most of the time for as long as I can remember.
     
  10. 201

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    That's a nice story, but sadly, it may be other folks casket as well. I just can't seem to make my point, I just can't condone an 89 year old driver that could pass out or DIE, at any moment, in a vehicle that can potentially kill someone. I say it's awful selfish, and I've found, being retired, there's PLENTY to do, and you can help people, not kill them. I have a neighbor, volunteers his time to drive the shuttle bus cross town, or another guy works p/t in a van for regional trips. I'm sorry, but using the airline industry as kind of a guide, they don't have old pilots for a reason, and a darn good one. It's a shame about the wife, I see it all the time, and yes, it sucks, but hiding in a truck waiting to die is a cop out, and could be far more productive, I think the late spouse might have wanted it that way.
     
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  11. Lennythedriver

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    You have to understand. He’s the exception not the rule. The man is healthy. I’ve met him, chatted with him, watched him hook up to a trailer, and shook the man’s hand. There’s a guy out there 103 years old and he still runs marathons. That also is the exception, it the rule. I have to say your response, respectfully, is stereotyping. Not everyone 89 years old is ready to fall over and just drop dead on a moments notice.

    Have you been to a truckstop recently? Just go park somewhere next to the fuel isle, and watch all the truckers that walk in and out of the fuel aisle. Out of breath, resting on their knees, just because they climb down out of the cab. Those are the ones you got to worry about falling over dead while flying down the freeway with 80,000 pounds. Yet somehow they still keep getting their medical card.
     
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