You hit the nail on the head. People keep talking about fuel mileage and the miles on the truck when I'm asking specifically about the most cost effective way to get the RPMs where I want them. Gears vs tires. I'm going to look at some gears a little lower (in number) than the 3.36 and see where that will put me. Either way, I think the best set up would be 3.36 with 11r24.5. If they have the trucks with 3.36 available then that will be the way I go. If not, I might put tall 22.5's on and run it for a while.
Change rear gears or go to 11R24.5?
Discussion in 'Ask An Owner Operator' started by BulletProof, May 17, 2014.
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i had an argument with skateboardman before on the mercer thread,this guy likes to argue just to for the hell of it,one of the old school guys who think he knows it all.
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11R22.5 rubber is the same overall diameter as Lo Pro 24.5 there's no point in spending extra money on 24" rims unless you go with 11R24.5 rubber. Seems like a simple tire swap from Lo Pro 22.5 up to 11R22.5 would be the easiest solution.
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Those trucks are set up for flatbed. That is not a problem except if you change to 24.5 tires your van height may be over 13'6". Need to consider the 5th wheel height as well.
My last truck was a 2007 Pete 386 with 3:36 rears, Cat C15, low pro 22.5 tires. If I ran it 70mph the fuel mileage was NOT good. At that speed you are looking at 5 to 5.5mpg at best.
The Cat assert engines do NOT do well at higher speeds. At least not the ones I have owned.
Since you are pulling a van one of their 387's would be better suited for that application. I looked at them last winter. They were lower mileage than the 379's. With the 379's you will need a roof faring or a nose cone on the trailer to help with the aerodynamics.BulletProof Thanks this. -
Thanks for all the replies guys. I called TMC today and they do not have any 3.36 trucks available. Those are the late 07's and they only have early 07's. That wouldn't have been a problem but I asked about maintenance records and if they will release them. He said they will not release any records to customers unless it has had an in frame and even then they only release the paperwork showing the in frame was done. Then he said not to worry that all the trucks were serviced on their intervals as they should be. I'm not an idiot. I know sometimes a driver doesn't have time to get a truck in to be serviced or he isn't in a place to get it serviced so there is no way they have all been serviced when they were supposed to be. Also, not releasing ANY information on the maintenance is a big red flag. I'm not going to drop $40k on a truck and not even know when the oil changes, trans fluid changes, rear end dope changes, etc happened and how often. It's just not going to happen. So, the search will continue for my trucks. Maybe I can find some decent Petes that are set up for an O/O with fuel efficiency AND speed in mind.
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you zinita, should have a vested interest in this thread, didn't you post somewhere your truck did 65 at 1500 rpm, do you think a set of tires would cure that situation?
the needs to clarify his position as he has in the last couple of posts, to answer the question he says he really wants an answer to, here goes,
1. I don't think a change in tire size will accomplish what he wants to accomplish fully, it will lower the rpm somewhat but no get him where he really needs to be
2. a rear gear change is what is really needed to really accomplish the goal.
3. at the point of just purchasing a truck and becoming a first time operator and dealing with all that and not having disposable income (bulletproofs words not mine) it isn't the wisest thing to spend what funds are available for a tire swap or a gear change
4. becoming an owner op requires a learning curve no matter how much you've read and studied.
5. odds are buying fleet truck with 900,000 miles a new op is going to encounter some problems, and since I have looked at the rear end of the 06 acert I have for about 400,000 of its 906,000 miles, I think I am slightly qualified to speak on that subject
6. I know what the op whats to know about gearing , but I simply threw in my opinion that's since he is becoming a first time truck owner , taking some more time to find a truck with specs more to his needs would be a wise choice.
7. I am not arguing , by the way, I simply am not telling the young man what he wants to hear but what he needs to hear
8. fact is, he is no different than when I was younger, I got my head turned by things shiny and chrome, I am sure any of you with any business sense could see that as a first purchase there are many other trucks with specs that would help insure his success and profitability than a tmc fleet truck, speced for flatbed use with the aerodynamics of a brick.
9. and compared a 15 liter cat to a 15 liter cat acert engine is a foolish enterprise at best, a tiger and lion are both cats, but they are different animals. -
bulletproof, glad you checked into it a bit more, I was going to post today and ask if you knew the engine hours on those trucks.
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I dearly wish a acert would get 7.2 running 74
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My 379 has 336's with a 13spd e model cat with a Haney tune and 24lp I hit 70 at 1400 rpm
At 1500 I'm at 74 and I love it this way hope this helps good luck -
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