Company wants to change my off duty time to sleeper berth so I can drive after 8

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  1. Wasted Thyme

    Wasted Thyme Road Train Member

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    To me it'd be a correction of the OPs mistake. If he was in the truck. He should have been logged sleeper. If he was out of the truck off duty.
     
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  3. skallagrime

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    Ehhhhh, ive had 8 hrs sleep driven 3 and needed a nap. Ive had 3 hrs of sleep and been good for the full 11

    I think the focus here is a bit wrong.

    The company is micromanaging the driver as if hes a machine, he not, even if hes only a number to the company, hes actually a human being

    Get a different job, no way would i let a company wake me up and manage me that way.
     
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  4. Mototom

    Mototom Road Train Member

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    Nope. I have to feel up to driving.
    Some nights I get by on 2-3hrs of sleep when I’m doing a crunch for a test.
    Others I feel like I’m a zombie if I don’t have a solid 8+
    They can take their split break and stick somewhere smelly. I spend 3 hrs at a shipper but can’t sleep cause they won’t wake me up and that’s supposed to be a “break”? Nah get out of here with that bs.
     
  5. Mototom

    Mototom Road Train Member

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    I agree some guys don’t work very hard but also think about it.
    Effort vs reward.
    I have always seen it first hand 75% of the time how hard someone works is determined by how they’re treated/compensated.
    Also maybe guy is getting burnt out.
    Sunday-Wednesday I’ll do #### near 700miles each day (live load/unload)
    After that, Ill be on time to the appointments but don’t ask for more.
     
  6. God prefers Diesels

    God prefers Diesels Road Train Member

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    Very true. But when you sign on, you know the task, and you know the payment terms. Many are happy to accept the payment, but don't want to hold up their end of the bargain. "Just lookin' to do an honest day's work, for an honest week's pay."

    Now a guy trying to handle logistics sees a driver that can make something happen, but the guy doesn't want to because he spent the first four hours of his off duty time F'n off. None of my business what he was doing, but I'm not the one that posted it on a public forum either.
     
  7. Brandonpdx

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    Yeah, this a great example of why generally I won't go out on the road in a company truck or even an owner-operator's truck any longer. Too many ways they can try to eff with you and pull crap like this. They know they've got you where they want you...trapped in their truck a long way from home and of course it's all your fault if anything goes wrong.
     
  8. Mototom

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    I must have missed that. But I usually spend 4 hrs to eat/shave/study and 6hrs in bed.
    When I plan to use a split break I know to eat and go to bed.
    I thought they surprised him with this load the way he was talking.
     
  9. Brandonpdx

    Brandonpdx Road Train Member

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    A solo driver doesn't need to differentiate between lines 1 and 2 when taking a 10 hour break as long as 10 hours consecutively are shown. The one exception being an 8/2 split sleeper break which personally I think should be done away with because of the confusion it creates and because of reasons like this thread post. Then line 2 would exist primarily for team truck logging since that is technically the only place you're allowed to be "off duty" if the truck is moving.
     
  10. God prefers Diesels

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    Oh, I think they surprised him too. Either way, he needs to work on time management just in case something like this happens, because "just in case" just happened. Now he's a hired hand that isn't technically fit for duty, and it wasn't his employer's fault. I couldn't imagine working with dispatch, but I can see it from their side too. Think about trying to rely on someone that works for you to get a job done, but now he can't or won't do that job he was hired to do. It would be one thing if they were trying to get him to do something illegal or unsafe, but they weren't. At least they didn't realize it. Only reason it ended up being unsafe was due to OP's negligence at managing his time properly.

    I was in management the last two years I was in wireline. Things got slow, and we couldn't send everyone out on jobs. But for their days on, they had to be ready to catch jobs. There were times I'd have to call quite a few hands because most of them were drunk. I mean we're paying you guys a guaranteed 40 whether you work or not, and you're drunk at one in the afternoon??? This kind of thing pisses me off when people don't take their job seriously.

    I guess if it's that "close to home" for me, maybe I shouldn't have got on my soapbox to begin with!!
     
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  11. striker

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    Not everyone puts their head on the pillow and sleeps for 8 solid hours, regardless of whether I'm home or in the truck, 5 to 6 hours is normal for me, usually only 4 hours, not uncommon to grab a 20 minute nap during the day at a customer. Only night of the week I sleep more than 6 hours is Sat. into Sunday, sometimes I get 7, sometimes I get 9, depends on my body.
     
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