Daylight Savings Time and DOT Logbook

I think I'll just move to Arizona.

 

realy..... well if MAN "Benjamin Franklin" didn't come up with daylight savings time/ daylight standard time you would be right

but when the man-made TIME CHANGES from daylight savings time to daylight standard time on THAT DAY you have 25 hr's lets count them 0000, 0100, 0200, (man made time change becomes 0100), 0200(again..!), 0300, 0400, 0500, 0600, 0700, 0800, 0900, 1000, 1100, 1200, 1300, 1400, 1500, 1600, 1700, 1800, 1900, 2000, 2100, 2200, 2300, 2400

sure looks like 25 hr's

or try this at midnight tonight set your screaming meanie for 24 hr's and see what time it goes off..... hint hint 2300

 

when it doesnt show the right total hr's for the day the recap will be off for the next 7 ie it keeps showing 10 not the 11 you drove for that day

 

That still does not null the 24 hours in a single day for truckers logging HOS. The Time Change is only an adjustment on the log. I have been searching for a solution and find the DOT can only accept that you log your duty status with a flag where the DST fell.

For example: you start at 00:00 at the hours between 02:00 and 03:00 you note two lines on line three, this accounts for 2 hours being credited toward your 11,14 hour clock. same as if you where in the sleeper.

The DOT man is smart enough to recognize any attempt to work 12 and record it as 11 on duty driving. As far as E-Logs the calculations, programmers have already addressed the variances of DST and the unit will still recognize 11 hours on duty driving no matter what time zone or DST adjustments take place during a twenty-four hour period.

I have E-logs on board and the adjustment is automatic, I do not have to make manual adjustments as would someone using paper-logs. But anyhow you slice it or dice it the laws of nature (celestial mechanics)forbid changing 24 in 23 or 25. It is what it is!

 

true but we are not talking about that we are talking about MAN MADE CHANGES and i am not even getting into when they (MAN) just adds time at the end of the year to adjust time to the movment of the earth as it slows it rotation around the sun, remember last leapyear they added 7 leap sec at midnight...!

 

It does not count 10 hours if you drive 11. You need to correct your information before you swear by it.

It's going to count 11 hours. If you start at midnight and drive till 11am, you're going to have a HOS violation.

 

It doesn't take exectly 365 days for the earth to complete a orbit around the sun. It takes 365 days and a handfull of hours. Add those hours up over the course of 4 years and you get another day.

BTW, the earths orbit around the sun doesn't dictate the length of a day. It's rotation does. The speed of the earths rotation does not change because the earth rotates on it's own axis. The earths tilt dictates DST, just as the earths tilt dictates our seasons.

Oh, and I've been eyeballing my EOBR tonight. I've been at the yard in SLC all weekend. At 1:59am MDT, I had 45 hours and 5 minutes logged on line 2. According to you, my EOBR should have lost a hour during the change, sending me back to 44 hours and 6 minutes at 2:00am. Guess what? Didn't happen. I didn't lose a hour and I'm showing 45 hours and 7 minutes on line 2. Instead of showing 45 hours and 6 minutes at 2:00am MDT, it's showing 45 hours and 6 minutes at 1:00am MST, and that hour is FLAGGED

 

This post gave me a proper LOL.

DST does NOT add or remove time from a 24 hour calendar day. Last time I checked, mankind doesn't have the technology to change the speed of the earth's rotation at will.

 

No, it doesn't. Mankind dictates DST. Read header Origin:

http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&sour...87i7Dg&usg=AFQjCNEXEAufYCzRcX163B7ESGGGvAP36w

 

Yeah, I know mankind created DST, but the earths tilt was the reasoning behind it. Shorter daylight hours in the winter and longer daylight hours in the summer led people to believe readjusting the clock to suffice daylight hours would help the economy, which it did at first. Now it's tradition more than anything (a annoying tradition at that).