just flag personal conveyance and youre good, in your case the only thing you got to please is a log audit by the man, so do it that way and youre good
This is your correct answer. Period. But you can log it any way you like. That is until you get caught. Read the regulations book, preferably one of the larger spiral bound books that have the explanations. Much better than getting advice here!!
so if I am understanding correct driving a truck down thjere would be regular on duty driving time then coming home in my personal vehicle would be off duty time line 1 correct? That is the way I understand it as I read it if I'm correct if not please someone let me know I logged off duty line one until I was back down there to get my truck then logged on duty coming home on duty not driving when I got fuel.
As I understand it anything truck business related is on duty, or drive line. But I don't always follow the rules either, after all rules are meant to be broken, 😁
I guess I will redo it where it reflects just like if I was driving down there then on duty not driving coming home in my personal vehicle on duty not driving to go back in my personal vehicle then on duty driving when I drove the truck back home I appreciate the advice just wanted to make sure I was doing it right.
I would log it "on duty" etc while you're actually doing it (in case you get stopped) but afterwards, tear up that log and just show off duty for the weekend. (as if you never drove down there). There were many times I did a Seattle turn from Kansas City, for instance. I lived in Nampa, Id. I logged (after the fact) Kansas City-Nampa and saved myself logging Nampa-Seattle and back. Back then, BOL's weren't matched with deliveries/logs.
I'm not sure about US rules but in Canada a commercial vehicle cannot be driven without a pretrip which is only valid for 24 hrs ... So even if you PC it you need a valid pretrip which puts you on duty least up here. Ps you've been home long enough where recap will carry through the week all you lose is a few Hrs or less logging it
why do that when if he noted on his log to begin with he was on personal conveyance. the guy has his own authority , do you think a company has a mechanic run a log if he drives a truck to a dealer shop ?? of course not. when you have your own authority , you wear many hats. you aren't just a driver. I had authority for 14 years, went thru several log audits and always logged time like this off duty and was never questioned some things like this are company policy and when you are the company, you make the policy. look at it sort of this way, when you take off the driver hat, put on the shop guy hat who has a cdl who is moving the truck for a repair within a 100 mile radius. frankly, you are worried about nothing if ya log it off duty but flag ahead of time the personal conveyance. when I had more than one truck and would take em for tires or service I never logged any of it on duty, I just put on a different hat, so to speak. but what do I know
My mindset is always "what if". I've done a lot of INTRA Ca. You can drive 12 hrs, starting and ending at the same location. Many, many, MANY times thru the years, another load would put me at 13-14 hrs for the day. The chances of getting caught were almost nil, except if there was an accident. Then I would have had to defend myself for being over my 12 hrs, right ? Telling a sharp lawyer on the witness stand "dispatch wanted one more load" wouldn't have cut it. Personal conveyance is for getting home or the store, not truck related stuff. You are using the truck for personal conveyance.
