Do you feel elogs should be mandatory or optional?

Discussion in 'Trucking Industry Regulations' started by EZX1100, Oct 23, 2012.

  1. EZX1100

    EZX1100 Road Train Member

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    if you bothered to research the history (or lack thereof) of how these new HOS were reached, it had nothing to do with safety, but placating the politicians to look like they were tough on drivers

    thats why they are being reviewed again and again

    and you are doing nothing but parroting their propaganda to your fellow drivers

    shame on you
     
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    $20,000 isn't expensive when it shouldn't be mandated?I understand the company drivers don't care since it will cost them nothing but us owner ops shouldn't be forced to update when our trucks still run and make money.
     
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    So you cannot post the study huh? Why not? Could it be it doesn't exist? I've already challeged a DOT officer that came here a lot to post a study... He could not, why? It doesn't exist.. period. Telling people one does is just a LIE. Your basing you argument on a lie, plain and simple... As others have said HOS regs have NOTHING to do with safety. There isn't a shred of evidence that suggests it is about safety...

    I know, it's a hard pill to swallow when this is pointed out... but that's the truth of it.
     
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    Here ya go.. try and look smarter next time

    http://www.fmcsa.dot.gov/rules-regu...ngs/final/05-16498-hos-final-rule-8-25-05.htm
     
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    If you believe that then your not a real trucker... :biggrin_2559:
     
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    Looks to me as though it were an "academic" study...looking at various sleep studies that have been performed elsewhere and then determining how to apply them to a commercial driver's schedule. I don't see where ACTUAL drivers were consulted, tested, studied, or in any other way sought out for their input.
     
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    What the hell is this... this is no study... I said post the study... not some document that says they did a study. Oh yeah, I rest my case... Come on, an independent peer reviewed study. The fact is it doesn't exist... Let's see the data of the study... lets see the driver pool they used... lets see the control they used... what were the variables of the study? Yeah, I'm asking for the actual paper they say they did...

    Who looks smart now?
     
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    What i find interesting is the conclusions of the study... Folks you have to dig because they really don't want you to know... plus much of the data is actually taken from Canadian physicians (hey they have universal health care they need something to do right?)

    Ok here is a conclusion:

    Hours of driving (time-on-task) was not a strong or consistent predictor of observed fatigue. Most notably, there was no difference in the amount (prevalence) of drowsiness observed in video records of comparable daytime segments of the 10-hour and the 13-hour trips.

    Interesting huh? What this means is that there isn't a difference in driving 10 hour or 13... hmm? does it get more interesting?
     
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    I drove 18 hours once.



    On a video game.

    Ethan