But be carefull (just a warning) cause if in an accident (doesn't have to be your fault) and them logs are looked @ much closer then something worse might happen. Fuel is not the only thing dot looks @ when they do an internal dot audit. They look @ everything. I think you know this and I think we had this convo before. I want others to know it though. Good luck, I won't preach anymore to you although I want to
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Do you run illegal on your logs?
Discussion in 'Trucking Industry Regulations' started by LogsRus, Mar 28, 2007.
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LogsRus, are you related to Dr. Laura Schlessinger?
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now the question you asked is misstated. It say do you run illegal on your logs?
Answer: Nope, my logs are always legal
care to ask a slightly different question?
Just by some miracle of luck I have never in 12 years loaded and had it take more than 15 minutes. Just good luck I suppose.
does multipling the speed limit by the number of hours to drive to come up with how many miles you can drive that day consitute an illegal situation? Not that I'v ever tried that but that's what I hear from other drivers.
there is to many ways to get caught these days and if you get in a fatality accident the dot will pull the ecm from your truck and have it examined. It won't lie. It will say exactly when that truck was movng and when it wasn't, what speed it was going and anything else they need to know short of gps locations. But that is coming with the black boxes. -
I ain't sayin' a dang thing.
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I can't believe I yell @ you, because umm if you saw me in a dark alley I would be running from ya -
Sorry, but nothing in your poll applied to me. I'll respond, "none of the above".
I'll cheat the book, but, only in very discrete ways. My book always is on the money with tolls, fuel, and my demurrage records. If none of these tattle-tails come into play I'll do things like not logging a short break. This slows my average speed down a little, and safety managers like slow trucks. Sometimes I may cut the 10 hour break a little short, but make the book show a full 10 was used, then I use the time later for an off the book break. My favorite cheat is to run the snot out of the truck covering 11 hours of distance in 9.50 or 10.0. I'll then show it took 11 full hours to get wherever I am. Now I can take a longer break but only show 10.
I work with idiots that believe the HOS rules are how much we're suppose to work, and the 10 hour break is all we're suppose to have off. I don't always want to work a full 14 hours, and most days a 10 hour break is less than what I require. Fudging the book gets me around their expectations, and gives me some time options to exercise albeit not 100% legal.
I can't recall the last time my logs were checked during a roadside inspection. I think the diesel cops know it's a lost cause trying to catch a cheater during an inspection. It's during a carrier audit that the dominoes begin to fall. -
Many try to log legal but find out how little the company values them for doing so, versus what they say in their press releases and orientations.
Ask many a OTR company if they expect you to drive illegal logs, and they will say, certianly not. Then get on that dispatch board and start turning down loads becuase you are out of hours or don't have time to cover that hot frieght, and watch your miles take a nose dive. They are often very suttle in their starving you out.
Then the driver comes here and says how crappy the miles are etc... when in actuality it was only crappy for them and others who fail to follow one of the unwritten rules of trucking. Cover the frieght first, worry about logs second.
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