DOT at rest areas and truck stops, will they wake you up?

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  1. ZVar

    ZVar Road Train Member

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    If he's running the local, air mile/12 hour exemption then he does not need to log it on a graph log. All he needs to do is "clock in" and "clock out". And that can be a simple sheet at the office with in/out times hand written....

    Here is the relevant line in 395.1
    (e) Short-haul operations—(1) 100 air-mile radius driver. A driver is exempt from the requirements of §§395.8 and 395.11 if:

    The exempt means just that, everything in those sections are exempt.
    And just so you know, 395.8 and 395.11 are.
    §395.8 Driver's record of duty status.
    §395.11 Supporting documents.


    The full short haul (CDL, Property carrying) exemption is....
    (e) Short-haul operations—(1) 100 air-mile radius driver. A driver is exempt from the requirements of §§395.8 and 395.11 if:
    (i) The driver operates within a 100 air-mile radius of the normal work reporting location;

    (ii)(A) The driver, except a driver-salesperson or a driver of a ready-mixed concrete delivery vehicle, returns to the work reporting location and is released from work within 12 consecutive hours;

    (B) The driver of a ready-mixed concrete delivery vehicle returns to the work reporting location and is released from work within 14 consecutive hours;

    (iii)(A) A property-carrying commercial motor vehicle driver, except the driver of a ready-mixed concrete delivery vehicle, has at least 10 consecutive hours off duty separating each 12 hours on duty;

    (B) A driver of a ready-mixed concrete delivery vehicle has at least 10 consecutive hours off duty separating each 14 hours on duty;

    (C) A passenger-carrying commercial motor vehicle driver has at least 8 consecutive hours off duty separating each 12 hours on duty;

    (iv)(A) A property-carrying commercial motor vehicle driver, except the driver of a ready-mixed concrete delivery vehicle, does not exceed the maximum driving time specified in §395.3(a)(3) following 10 consecutive hours off duty; or

    (B) A driver of a ready-mixed concrete delivery vehicle does not exceed 11 hours maximum driving time following 10 consecutive hours off duty; or

    (C) A passenger-carrying commercial motor vehicle driver does not exceed 10 hours maximum driving time following 8 consecutive hours off duty; and

    (v) The motor carrier that employs the driver maintains and retains for a period of 6 months accurate and true time records showing:

    (A) The time the driver reports for duty each day;

    (B) The total number of hours the driver is on duty each day;

    (C) The time the driver is released from duty each day; and

    (D) The total time for the preceding 7 days in accordance with §395.8(j)(2) for drivers used for the first time or intermittently.
     
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    Yes exactly. I never said he need to draw a chart but he does need to log and do a pre trip
     
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    When I am within 100 air miles, I do not need to log anything. I think that from now on I will use loose leaf log book pages or something like that. Can I print them on a printer?
     
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    Good heavens Man Do whatever your boss tells you just don’t drive by any truck ramps
     
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    I am the boss.
     
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    Not for long
     
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    I am hard to fire because I own the company
     
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    The DOT will fire you. How many inspections have you had? What’s your DOT number?
     
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    Why would DOT fire him? Nothing he's said so far is illegal.
     
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