E-Logs - the good, the bad & the ugly

Are you saying that all the others are wrong?

Seriously, define e-log?

here is some help with that question -

Is it an application that goes on a smart phone, laptop or computer or is it a proprietary device like a Nav unit?

See here is a bit of advice, go and buy the units to see what works and what doesn't. If you are good at what you do, then someone can write up a set of specs and requirements for you to follow and then go back and make the corrections during testing.

I can answer all of that for you but throwing out all these answers, issues, wants and desires means absolutely nothing unless you know what exists and what we do first hand.

 

Yeah you won't get anywhere with a thread like this. Sorry

 

The op is wanting insight for the user interface.

Tappin through
with a SGN2

 

I like E logs, They taste like chicken.

 

I thought they tasted like Lot Lizzard Gizzards..

 

If he wants to really learn, he needs to return and ask questions about the comments made here.

 

There is no sense asking drivers what they want in e-log systems . Drivers don't buy them . He needs to survey carriers and the results would be contrary to info given here .

 

You don't understand the 14 hour rule. If you drive for six hours, then go completely off duty for another six hours, you only have two hours of drive time left before your 14 hours expires and you need to take 10 off. You can be shut down and in your house for those six hours, but they still count on your 14. They don't, however, count against your 70.

Put another way, you have to be off duty/sleeper berth for 10 consecutive hours out of 24. Period.

Check § 395.3(a)(2)...

 

I think landstar8891 might be referring to adverse driving conditions that would allow a driver to make up for lost time, rule 395.1(2)(b):

(b) Driving conditions -(1)Adverse driving conditions. Except as provided in paragraph (h)(2) of this section, a driver who encounters adverse driving conditions, as defined in 395.2, and cannot, because of those conditions, safely complete the run within the maximum driving time permitted by 395.3(a) or 395.5(a) may drive and be permitted or required to drive a commercial motor vehicle for not more than 2 additional hours beyond the maximum time allowed under 395.3(a) or 395.5(a) to complete that run or to reach a place offering safety for the occupants of the commercial motor vehicle and security for the commercial motor vehicle and its cargo.

395.2 Definitions

Adverse driving conditions means snow, sleet, fog, other adverse weather conditions, a highway covered with snow or ice, or unusual road and traffic conditions, none of which were apparent on the basis of information known to the person dispatching the run at the time it was begun.

I haven't used an e-log. However, if a driver is unable to note adverse driving conditions and adjust to be able to run additional hours to make up for lost time, then there should be some way to note the conditions and allow for additional time to run the necessary miles.

 

Thanks Landstar: this is very helpful. My understanding of other e-log systems is that is starts using this period when the vehicle is not moving - how would you log on paper the time for loading/unloading, driving conditions etc.? There does need to be some flexibility in the system - but the regulations also state that they must be "tamper proof". I'm simply trying to find a happy medium.