Employer wants private medical information from routine Dr visit

Discussion in 'Questions From New Drivers' started by Matt43324, Nov 8, 2018.

  1. Scooter Jones

    Scooter Jones Road Train Member

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    "A bit extreme of an example, but applicable for many medical situations."

    Yeah, a raging yeast infection is imagery I really could of lived without tonight ;-)
     
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    Go back to my statement about assessing a drivers fitness to drive. That is the operable part. EVERYTHING ELSE is commentary. A ME makes that determination. The carrier has the right to that exam. I'm not going to go off way over yonder with examples that stray from that main point. A carrier has the right to withhold driving their equipment in these circumstances. That's all there is!
     
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    I figured that would have given someone a good laugh, or cringe. I'm happy with either lol.
     
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    Speaking of yeast, my wife blamed me for cinnamon rolls not rising in the oven this morning! LOL
     
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    I'm unsure how that would be your fault rofl!! Hot diggity a warm cinnamon roll sounds so amazing right now.

    Also, insert joke about putting a bun in HER oven. Haha!!
     
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    I also want to add one more thing on this "fitness to drive" subject as it relates to a carrier. There has been a lot of threads about carriers not accepting current physicals. Some won't, there are many reasons for this. I know one such reason was fraud. Not really possible now that the FMCSA set up this ME database. I remember one guy said he just did his own physical and used the doctors license number from the Georgia Medical Examiners website. Another reason is a carrier has added requirements such as the physical fitness test, IE that duckwalk. Some carriers also have an incestuous relationship with sleeplabs and CPAP sales. This was because a few years ago the FMCSA was about to hit those sleep apnea guidelines hard and some carriers invested money into getting up to speed on this. Then Congress got involved and slapped the FMCSA's hands. Those guidelines were withdrawn. However the FMCSA is still working on this issue. Anyway most of the megas are going to want you to go at least that first time at orientation to one of their MEs. If there is anything that is wrong with you medically and "might" show up during this physical, well it might cost you that card. Then you are going to get sent home. This crap happens all the time at orientations and carrier financed schools. The thing is and I can't say this loud enough, if you choose to bring letters from your private physician these letters will become part of your physical. EVEN if that ME asks for a release your further employment with that carrier will be based on you giving that ME the release to process that long form. It is going to the FMCSA, you and your carrier. If you have something that renders you unfit to drive and are planning to use HIPPA et al to hide behind? I advise not doing so. At some point it's going to come out. One more thing. The FMCSA only bans 2 substances, that's all. They ban ALL schedule i substances and ANY medication used to treat seizures. Even though they test for opiates these drugs are NOT BANNED. A driver can have them in their system. It just needs to be medically indicated and the prescribing doctor indicates this in a letter the driver presents to the ME. You do this and if you pop a positive on a later drug test for these substances your still good. However I will never recommend using them while driving.
     
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    I like at-will or right-to-work employment. It's the opposite side of the same coin as driver changing job because they found a better place. How would drivers like being stuck at an old job until your boss wasready for you to leave. Freedom doesn't mean no problems. It means you and the boss make their choice and live with consequences.
     
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    Two completely different concepts.
    At-will: Can be fired or quit for any reason. All 50 states are at will.
    Right-to-work: Don't have to be part of the union to be employed at the company. Depending on state one still has to pay union dues...
     
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    When it comes to the wonderful world of trucking it don't really matter what state you live in. You are either driving under a CBA or you are not. The majority of drivers today are not.
     
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    I totally agree with you. That being said I don't agree with people being fired without legitimate reasons. However if my boss were to fire me without giving me a practical reason, then so be it because frankly I find that unethical and I don't want to work for unethical people.