Glider, Pre-EGR and Passive DPF.

This is not true. Any truck, even just passing through the state, has to comply. It's been upheld in court. I think it's BS but apparently the law says different.

 

I ran into a guy that pulls reefer to California and he was having a DPF installed and was going to carry an extra pipe that he can change in 15 minutes on the way into and out of California. He said he had it figured out with his muffler shop? He ran a grassburner now, single exhaust, He said he is just waiting for the deadline, he is hoping the 10k will come down once the filters have been mandated, and the competition between shops installing them starts heating up?

 

Talked to a number of techs who have been seeing major issues with urea induced corrosion in the lines (urea is acidic, not by much, something close to 6.95 buts its pH is still below 7 which is neutral on a scale of 14, or so I heave heard but can't confirm) as well as a number of complete injector replacements on DD's with brand new engines. This seems to be happening more and more, not to mention the EGR issues. So again, I am not certain if I want to go to the new emissions as of yet, though buying an older rig just will not cut it, so again the glider seems a nice fit for me at least; basically everything new except the rebuild engine and tranny. I will figure it out in time.

 

Link to prove it?

 

I know they have a phase-in date for a lot of this nonsense, but as I don't do Californication anymore I don't concern myself with it. The following is an email of course dates that CARB has set up as well as the addy of the peep that sends it out. Hope that helps.

mtaviani@arb.ca.gov

COURSE #511 - Diesel Exhaust After-Treatment Devices.
This course discusses diesel particulate matter and health
effects; diesel engine PM and NOx production and control
strategies; DPF theory, types, regeneration, and application;
and regulations associated with particulate filters.

February 26, Salinas (8:30-4:00)
March 15, Carson (8:00-3:00)
March 27, Victorville (8:00-3:00)

For more information or to register for 511, please go to
https://ssl.arb.ca.gov/training/courses.php?course=511

COURSE #520 - How to Comply with CARB Diesel Regulations.
This course reviews the inspection process, discusses the
consequences of non-compliance, and explains how to comply with
CARB's regulations affecting most diesel vehicles and equipment
operating in the State. This course is for truck owners,
operators, brokers, dispatchers, and fleet managers, who are
all responsible for complying with these regulations.

February 27, Salinas (8:30-12:00)
February 27, San Leandro (1:00-4:30)
March 7, Woodland (8:30-12:30)
March 19-21, 3-part Webinar Series (9:00-10:30am PST)

For more information or to register for 520, please go to
https://ssl.arb.ca.gov/training/courses.php?course=520

 

Cheaper to operate than his older trucks? Possibly, but in my case, it would be hard to beat my 2013 glider with a new emission truck. I am averaging 7 mpg in winter, and pretty close to 8 mpg in summer. I got the truck for $40K less than any comparably spec'd new truck from International, FL, and Paccar. Maintenance costs are lower also.

In my case, I haven't run CA since the 90's, I don't go to either coast, so ports are a non issue. For what I do it is a no brainer. But I saw this, along with HOS changes, coming from a long way off and established a tighter operating area and different customer base I work with. So I am totally out of the CA, coasts, and ports thing. One does have to determine on their own what they do, who they are doing it with, and whether just pulling the trigger on a new emission truck is a viable option. Some will just have no choice. Again, it is a matter of what you are willing to put up with or how you can adjust your operation differently.

 

Nexwinner,are you talking about the fuellines?
And that the urea is causing the injector's to fail?

 

DEF harness failures seem to be rather common due to corrosion. Detroit's been replacing a lot of 6 pack of injectors when the tech can't seem to narrow down a single injector that's causing an issue. Lots of codes popping up for DEF quality, doser issues, injector issues etc. Delta P issues too. I've seen Detroit approving 6 injector replacements several times a week (different units). It's ###### rare that an OEM would do all 6 before the newer stuff came out so I have to think they don't even know what's going on exactly.

They're changing parts, not solving problems.

The new DD's seem to have a lot of issues and so far we've been good with warranty but the diag is longer/harder, the parts aren't as easily available and they're more expensive. Have one truck with over 30 hours into it before they said "replace the one box" - that's 10 grand right there for parts. Lord help the man who has a new Detroit and the warranty is up.

I'm just not impressed with the new Detroits at all.

I go back on the road - it's going to be in an older, pre-emissions truck.

 

The purpose of purchasing a glider is to have no emissions equipment on your engine. Not to put it on afterwards. I have only bad reviews on here of people retrofitting their engines with the DPF. If you are going to run california and therefore need the DPF then buy an engine designed for one. Yes they still cause problems but I would bet you a lot less then a retrofitted glider engine. If you need to run california buy a DEF engine they are showing much better reliability than the DPF only engines. They still have their problems but fewer for sure.

 

I work for a company that has lots of customers in California. We usually run at least two trucks to CA a week. We have three Volvos 780 that are 2011,2012 and 2013, We had our share with issues on the trucks, but none have been with the emmission equipment. The three trucks have about 800,000 combined miles. I run the 2013 and on my last trip I averaged 7.8mpg to CA and on my way back it dropped to 7.4mpg, but I was at 79,000lbs going back to WA. Roundtrip was about 2850mls with 19 drops on the way down and driving in Downtown LA, Sacramento and Oakland. Also we see a lot better rates coming out of CA than coming back from the East coast.