Heavy Haul Miscellaneous Thoughts, Ideas and Questions

For me, I would NEED a 29' well, to keep weight off my baby drives and let me pull up to 70k lbs. For what we haul here though, I think a 26' minimum would work for a 4 axle truck.
MW spec'd out these trailers very well. Over 29' well on mine and still 53' with the neck up. Not legal everywhere unless the rear axle is off the ground, and even then not legal in a communist state, but the flip neck works great IMHO.

Martin

 

and the way the talbert is made you have 2ft beyond the well before you hit the tire so you have some fuzzy math room to work with if need be

 

a 55ton with a 13ft neck and 26 well. will axle the same as a 29 well short neck with orientation of where the load sits. if that makes sense??? most lowboys with a 26 deck have a higher concentrated load rating than a 29 deck. unless it is special ordered. I have never lost maybe 1 or 2 loads with 26 ft deck. of course what I haul usually only takes up 20ft of deck most of the time. also keep in mind like ohio if you don't have at least 35 ft from center of rear drive axle to center of front trailer axle they wont give you max weight on 7. unless that has recently changed. so a short deck (24ft) may hinder you in some places.

 

nite all. gotta go to bed. long day tomorrow!

 

35' is not hard to get with a hydraulic detach, I have a 24' well and I'm over 35' from the rear drive to the front trailer axle. If you look at the side view of most mechanical's vs hydraulic's the trailer axles are closer to the deck than on a hydraulic, and the distance from the rear drive to the deck is also shorter because of the neck shape. I have a 24' clear well, 108" swing clearance, tri axle with 60" spreads and my oal is 53', the same as most mechanical's with a 29' well. I used to pull a beam with 28' in the well with 60" spacings and a 108" swing clearance, I loved that trailer but you had to pay attention especially with the 4th axle pinned on it could be fun in tight places.

 

yeah some just don't understand when running as a quad the so called pivot point at the rear axles gets a little longer.

 

With the neck flipped, I am 41' inner bridge! Got that covered I'd say...
Problem for me being 3 axle truck is I need to move weight back. Only way for me to do that is with the longer well, AND the neck flipped, making it a 57' trailer. The 775 I just dropped off had me at 41k lbs on the drives, full of fuel and snow. Neck flipped, machine all the way back. Granted when the snow melted in Mt, I lost a ton or so, but still.....

Martin

 

Ok here's what I found out. I called two buddies that work for the same company one pulls a tri axle with a tandem tractor, one pulls a tri axle with a pin on 4th and a 4 axle tractor. Both said they weigh about 80,000 like you said. The guy with the tandem said he weighed one out last week, it came out 12,840 on the steer, 45,800 on the drives and 61,840 on the trailer for a gross of 120,480. This was on a 45 ton Etnyre with 26' well and a tandem T800, he said he was pulled clear to the rear of the trailer and thinks he could get the weight off of the trailer if he would have backed it toward the neck. I would be a little concerned about axleing it out on that trailer, you are close to the max capacity of the trailer and I think the front axle would be a little heavy and the rear would be light with no way to shim the rear bogey. Also his tare weight is a bout 40,200 give or take, the trailer does have a covered rear section which would add a little, but I think it would still be lighter than a 55 ton even with an open rear. The guy with the 8 axle setup grossed about 132,000 he was 67000 on the trailer that was with the axle on and a 55 ton Etnyre, He thought even with the axle off and the truck backed clear up to the neck he would still be heavy on the trailer. So either way you are going to be close.