Help to create business plan for tri axle dump truck company

Tri-axle dump trucks eat tires in general and you’ll ruin a bunch more traveling in job sites. Have a big tire budget.

I know one of the above posters said they were running air ride, I never liked air ride on a dump truck. Leans too much and will get you stuck in the mud. Best suspension is either a Hendrickson or Mack Camelback.

Another thing you need to do is get you a 3/4-1” cable with loops on both ends. If you go off-road, you will get stuck, and the first thing a dozer will want to do is push you out. Don’t let him do it, you will ruin your tailboard and/or tailgate. I’ve even seen them break the dump hinges. Instead, take the cable, attach it to your tow hook, and let him pull you out.

 

Oh yeah for sure. I agree with you on the camelback. This bussiness a Mack rd with camelback is what he would want. Also about air ride, I’m still gettin used to that sway going around corners with that amount of weight on my back. Lastly, never heard of states not requiring dot numbers. If I wanted to cross state lines I would need apportioned tags. But yeah pa definitely requires dot numbers. I got pulled over for it by dot when the truck I was driving didn’t have them displayed on the truck. If someone could post literature where certain states are exempt from having dot numbers if hauling in state only that would be an interesting read

 

DOT numbers are a federal thing, as long as you don’t cross a state line, the USDOT has no authority over you. Now lots of states do require you to get a DOT number, but some states don’t.

If you are lucky enough to live in a state that doesn’t require it, you don’t have to abide by most FMCSA rules. Well, you actually don’t have to abide by any of them, but some rules are tied federal funding, and states opt to enforce them to keep the federal dollars flowing.

If you never cross state lines and you load originates and is delivered within state lines, The federal government has zero authority over you, besides what the state has granted.

 

This is all right on. I looked in to it before going interstate flatbed.

I liked driving dumps. One of my favorite trucks ever to this day was a tri axle Ford LTL 9000 with a 600HO cummins! Rippped!

 

I recommend talking to someone who can give you the advantages and pitfalls of all forms for your situation, not just take the word of others who may not see what could happen.

I know one thing is for sure, and LLC will not protect your assets from negligence and liabilities so in this business it is all about mitigating the risks and lowering the liabilities. In my world, I know dumps are high visibility and high risk, they are the minglers in traffic and it takes one good accident to ruin your day.

I was told this morning by one of my drivers who is a member here I come across as a negative prick, and I admit I do because I hate to see people lose their money, waste their time and get screwed over. He gets why I am like this but he also knows I will fight for him and the other drivers because of it.

 

I have always read your stuff as negative but positive!

I sound like that too sometimes. Heck man I am a optimistic pessimist. How can life not make you that? I would LOVE to save just 1 human from any of the crap I have experienced in life or trucking so sometimes you just have to say it like it is.

 

M16ty,
You are indeed correct. Blackhawk will need a dot number however. Here is the list of some states but not limited to that require dot numbers hauling intrastate
Half way down the link
Do I Need a USDOT Number?

 

Do you own a large fleet? What do you run your bussiness under and why? Owning one truck isn’t really a recipe for disaster buddy. As long as you don’t have employees and you have proper insurance. I used a good law firm that my mothers bussiness uses to set up what was the better option for me. Kinda sounds like you had a bad experience set up as an llc or you read to much info on the internet. I read ford trucks are complete garbage. It’s hearsay

 

Nope not a bad experience setting up an LLC, but suing them.

But you eluded to the secret, when it comes to setting up a business entity, you don't go to the internet and pick one but have an advisor tell you what fits your needs best.

Most can do an LLC if they are aware of the liabilities in this industry, one is your personal assets for a owner/operator is not protected, this seems to be a bullsh** sales pitch to fool people into thinking that they are safe.

But like the CEO that goes to jail and loses a lot of personal assets for telling someone to leave out something for safety, a owner who is also an operator can face the same thing because they didn't abide by the stupid regulations or did something stupid like speeding in a construction zone and hit a bus full of nuns and toddlers.

AND owing one truck can sink someone just as much as owning ten or one hundred. It costs money, if you can't pay the bills because you can't make money, then what?

 

I hear ya and I appreciate your insight and debate.