HOS Restart Question

It's the same for both ... E or paper, it's just the the method used for tracking your hours.

Basically you start with a 14 hour clock each day. As soon as you start logging work of any sort, that clock starts ticking. Now during that 14 hour period you are allowed to drive up to 11 hours and work on duty for as long as you want. You can continue to work beyond the 14 hours, but you may not drive.

For simplicity, I'll not get into splits. You can drive again and start another 14 hour clock 10 hours after you last stopped working.

You have sliding 8 day window, during that 8 day window you can not show more than a total of 70 hours of work - driving and work combined. On any given day, you have 70 hours of work/drive time available, less the work/drive time you expended in the last 8 days.

At anytime you can restart the 70 hour/8 day window by not working for a period of 34 hours.

 

if you have an android, there's an app for that.....Hours of service recap by Warsoft......remember, your hours of service are the combination of both driving time and on duty time.....I drive OTR so my "on duty" time is pretty much limited to pretrip, post trip, and fuel....everything else is off duty. Here's a copuple of other tips and reminders.......

1. you get 14 hours a day from the time you start your clock TO DRIVE......nothing can stop that (except a split sleeper and I don"t have the patience to explain that and you'll probably never need to use it). You can work after your 14th hour (unload a truck or whatever), you just can not drive after 14.
2. personally, if I'm not making money, I'm off duty....getting loaded, unloaded, in the shop, whatever. Going off duty doesn't help your 14 hour clock, but it does help you 70 hour clock. Here's an example; you and I work at the same place. Our job is to drive 5 hours one way, get unloaded for 4 hours, and drive 5 hours back. I log the unload time as off duty, you log it as on. At the end of 5 days, I've used 50 of my available hours and have 20 left. You, on the other hand have used all 70 of your available hours and have to sit for 34 to get reset.
3. always log your pretrip and post trip.

Hope this helps.....good luck!!

 

Where the problem starts is the fact that people fail to understand the purpose of Hours of Service. Companys would run you 24 hours a day and pay you nothing if they could. That is because they are in business to make money and anything paid to you cost them. Drivers need time off as we have lives outside the truck. So the Government stepped in to help out. The companies and the unions argued back and forth and came up with this compromise. The schools scare drivers into thinking that HOS regs are out to get them. No, they are out to get the company. A driver might have to take a nap if they are caught but a company gets fined.

I started out running as a team from Kansas City to Houston, Texas and back. That run takes 11 hours and 15 minutes. You cannot do it any faster. So, it required 2 drivers. Or at least two driver numbers. We would start out as driver A. 3 hours later we would change over to driver B and drive to Houston. There we would drive 2 hours back toward Kansas City and then change back to A for the remainder of the trip. In reality, I drove down and he drove back. The spirit of the law is not to be forced to drive tired. Not to overwork yourself.

You use the log to protect yourself and to sc r e w with any dispatcher who is being a jerk.

You can drive 8.75 hours a day and never go over 70 hours. But that does not include on duty time. You are suppose to do an inspection everyday pre and post trip. That takes 15 minutes. Also you have to eat. They give you 1/2 hour for that. So, you can drive 8 hours a day, take half hour for lunch, 8 minutes to pre and 7 minutes to post and you can do that forever. That makes you the most money.

 

I agree completely WR.....it only took me about 2 days to figure out that HOS regs are meant to save the driver......companies would runs us 24/7 if they could and likely pay less per mile (because we would be getting more miles).

 

But, a company could only run you ragged if you let them! Some people just don't have the ability to say no.