How are rates for O/O's at the moment?

So much doom and gloom from those who were in short pants in 2008-2009..... It is entertaining.

 

Screenshots from 11/15/22 for Dry Van rates.

Posts for loads down 51% Y/Y.
Truck posts up ~20% Y/Y.
Spot rates down about 15% Y/Y, but only down about 1.5% from Sept. to Oct.
Spot rate per mile for Van was $2.42/mi in Oct. And fell to $2.39/mi in Nov. so far.
Midwest gas highest average at $2.65.

Basically if the rate dropped more than $100, it's not because the market is paying that much less...it's because either their customer is paying them less or their competition is quoting lower so they're trying to push the rates down instead of *actually* finding somewhere to add value to their customers so they don't have to be the cheapest....

 

Do a search for van loads.
Besides short hauls or going into dead zones, near everything is $2 a mile and under for Van

 

Correct. ATA represents the “majors”. Not the owner op. P O S bunch of a holes.

 

Welders make bank. How hard is it to become one? Really how long?

 

They make great money in the oilfield for sure.

 

A few months to certify, natural ability and (or) a few years to master

 

Skill pretty much nailed it. I got about halfway through my cert before the bottom fell out of the oilfield. Mostly did it to make the transition to driller easyer as an at the time plan B, there was a decent pay bump if you had a welders cert and also did the driller training course. They liked it because you could be used both drilling or welding and setup. Ive also practiced off and on for years on home projects with mig and stick.

Im no master but most things i weld together, stay together. So i cant imagine it would be hard to finish my cert someplace. Even if i gotta start from scratch. Also helps i have an admitidly battered old mig/tig combo trailer with an aluminium attachment as well. Aint fancy but it does the job.

 

If you got into a union. Your looking 40 to 55 an hour. After full card. Takes 5 years. Depends where your at.