How many rules/laws did I break?

Discussion in 'Experienced Truckers' Advice' started by nodak63, Apr 20, 2013.

  1. Raiderfanatic

    Raiderfanatic Heavy Load Member

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    Just because you have a CDL you do not need a DOT card. In Kansas, if you work for a county or State, driving a truck, dump truck etc... you need a CDL class A or B but are not required to have medical card. I pulled the low boy hauling different equipment all over the state and never took a log book or had a medical card. I was leery of it at first so I called KS highway patrol and they told me as long as I'm in the state, it is not required. And once officers see it's a county or state vehicle, they wouldn't bother me.
     
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    I don't think I"ll be turning myself in............by the looks of the responses there seems to be some discrepency. I consider myself to be a person who tries to follow the rules. That being said, I didn't come on here and ask questions before I made the trip because I was afraid of this exact scenario, not getting a good consensus. I thought that since I bought it for personal use I had some "exemption" at least to drive the thing home. I know pulling the trailer for money technically made me "for hire", but again, I could have said it was just for a friend. As far as the hours of driving go, I don't think I was required to have a logbook for a personal use truck but at the same time I wasn't driving the whole time. I drove a total of 13 hours and had a coule of hours sitting waiting and hooking on to the trailer. I am correct that you can drive for 13 hours one time as long as it's a trip that can usually be done in 12? I would've made it in under twelve total if I didn't have any sitting time.
     
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    Lucky you,you did'nt get caught.Next time you need,med card,log book,permits.Those are the most obvious.'m sure there are more but i'm a company driver so not sure what everything else is needed.
     
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    A lot of people keep mentioning the 150 mile radius exemption. Its irrelevant to the OP's situation
     
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    soooo....you broke some rules,that's trucking
     
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    Raiderfanatic Heavy Load Member

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    Okay, someone buys a truck to pull their camper/fifth wheel. It's not for hire...it's not for commercial work. It has air brakes and certain weights, so yeah, they'll need a CDL. But they won't need a medical card. They won't need a log book. And I don't see how they will need to follow they hours of service.

    Not much different in what the OP did there. It's purchased for personal use. Not for hire. Not used for commercial purposes. How does he fall under the same guidelines as those of us who do this for a living?

    I'm thinking there's too many posters on here who "think" they know what they are talking about but in reality they are just giving uneducated opinions. Guessing, basically.
     
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    Technically, he was fine, as you've stated, until he attached the trailer which he was hauling for pay. In reality, I would have done the same.
     
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    No contract no pay. All he would have had to do would be to tell the powers that be that he was bringing it back for a friend seeing as he was out that way anyways picking up the truck.
     
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    Good points, all the above. Not for hire, you still have the 26,000GVW rule. You don't need a CDL to drive private or under 26,000. Other than that, all the rules apply, especially insurance as midnight mentioned, and the medical card. You can get the DOT rules online, free of charge. See - easy!
     
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    Sorry - I don't know if all states are the same, but PL/PD insurance is a mandatory requirement for any vehicle on a public roadway in most states.