ICC bumper damage enough to put it out of service?

Discussion in 'Experienced Truckers' Advice' started by driver956., Jun 18, 2025.

  1. Concorde

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    Here, it’s an interesting read..even a rusted bumper needs to be replaced.

    https://downloads.regulations.gov/FMCSA-2019-0211-0004/attachment_10.pdf

    As far as what you dispute, I’m no expert just learning myself. Couple things about that argument is that it most definitely absorbs some energy of the impact in a dead center hit. An off center hit by a motorcycle would be another reason for it needing to conform to factory standards.
     
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    They just did away with having the manufacturers plate requirement to be legible.
     
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    The Lawyer will pick the words, not you.
     
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    Billboard attorney's make a lot of money off these bent and missing icc bumpers...
     
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    You work for a petty, money grabbing company, whom obviously has little regard for taking care of an equipment problem. They would rather fire the driver that pointed it out and refused to operate it in that condition. I wouldn't give those losers a second thought. Move on and forget about them. Continue in the future to inspect all the equipment before you operate it, and if you see something that doesn't look right, say something about it.
     
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    Let's say you're right.

    If the driver gets rear ended, the plaintiff is going to argue otherwise. How many hours are the lawyers going to bill the trucking company/driver defending the suit? Even if the lawyers work for free, how many hours will the owners spend filling out interrogatories, sitting for depositions, etc? Time that should be spent running the business will be frittered away - all to avoid spending $3,000 to replace the bumper.

    Heck, even if there is no accident and the driver just gets cited it will cost almost the same as replacing the bumper.

    Running equipment in this condition is short sighted.
     
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    Just wait til you see the brakes......
     
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    Well, I'm going with Ridgeline on this one. 1st, someone running into your ICC bar, is at fault right off the bat. 2nd, if someone DID mash into your rear, it would probably distort the bumper anyway. I think it would not be a specific cause for a trooper to pull you over, but would certainly add it to the "list" at an inspection. Regarding the last sentence, it's called "penny wise and dollar foolish", and we've all worked for those kinds of places, just not too long, I hope.
     
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    Someone hitting you might be at fault but it can still get dragged out in court and cost people a lot of money.

    Punitive damages in huge Wabash judgment slashed but still over $100M