Is there help for solo drivers who have trouble reversing?

Discussion in 'Questions From New Drivers' started by crabby125s girl, Dec 10, 2009.

  1. RickG

    RickG Road Train Member

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    Fine , but wake your partner up after he has 8 hours sleeper so he doesn't violate HOS or put you both out of hours .
    But all this talk about driver image or company image . When people are at the dock waiting to load or unload and other drivers are there waiting for that dock what kind of image do they get ?
     
  2. dcedlr

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    Here is the solution to your problem: Have the driver that is having problems purchase or "borrow" two large orange cones. The next time the boys are sitting around waiting on a load and/or have free time on their hands (and don't say they don't, because all drivers do unless they have 0 time management skills) tell them to go to an empty parking lot or truck stop during the day and set out the orange cones to mark off the space they are going to pull into. Then spend a couple hours each time practicing. Driver 2 will learn quickly where to begin his setup to have his rear end positioned for backing into the hole. Driver 2 can also use those cones to help him at night when parking (he may get some #### on the CB but who cares). With that big orange cone up, he just needs to make sure is tire hugs around that cone when jacking his trailer in the hole to avoid anything on the other side. Also, unless its like after midnight, if the lots busy, all he has to do is ask for a spot on the CB and someone will help him. No need to wake his co-driver. I guarantee that this method will work for Driver 2.

    The advice on reporting him to their DM, cussing him out, etc. is crazy. Its only a problem because they have made it one. A little thinking on either of their part and this would not be an issue. Driver 1 & Driver 2 should be a team and look out for each other. Especially since there friends and chose to drive as a team, stress the importance of looking out for one another and finding solutions to their issues. There will be more issues besides this so treat it like a marriage and make it work.
     
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    Since when is c.r.a.p. a swear word that needs censorship?
     
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    Better than that do it at a terminal between empty trailers. Its more realistic. I had trouble backing out of school. I practiced every chance I got while waiting for a load at a terminal.
     
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    and you wont tear anything up if you're going slow and careful either doing what wsyrob says. I've bumped into trailers at the terminal before, went OH <insert word>, then got out and looked, and hey, now the hole im backing into is bigger! LOL. moved an empty that way LOL
     
  6. outerspacehillbilly

    outerspacehillbilly "Instigator of the Legend"

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    Well heres my opinion like it or not. It's probably not driver 2's fault that he didn't learn how to back in "training" because he probably had a "so-called trainer" with 5 or 6 months driving under their belt that barely new how to backup themself. If Driver 2 was a solo he would have done 1 of 2 things at this point. 1. He would have been forced to learn how to back up on his own, or 2. he would have ran into a bunch of #### already and his career would be over that quickly. If i were BF I would tell him after this much time I can't help you, you either gonna have to figure it out or I'm gonna have to find a new team mate because I need my sleep. He'll either figure it out or BF will have to find a new team mate plain and simple.
     
  7. Powder Joints

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    Well I would not gamble my record on a team mate, actually I would not team to start with. Put him on his own to sink or swim.
     
  8. phroziac

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    I agree with Powder Joints here. Teaming is just a load of crap all around. I make more money solo than i ever did teaming...but I was also forced into teaming with a bunch of morons (way worse than your buddy!).... I went to cracker barrel last night and saw an ex-codriver working there. I bet he doesnt even make enough to eat there. I sure as hell hope he didnt get part of the tip i gave the waitress...I'm really glad that his DAC is wrecked, I'd hate to have him behind an 18" wheel again. Haha, our dispatcher told me "I'll report him on his DAC for abandonment, he'll never be able to drive a truck again!"

    Anyway....this codriver needs to go back into the ETrainer system and re-take the backing CBT module. I bet he thought the techniques it gives are bull. I think if he pays attention to it it may help him figure out what hes doing wrong.
     
  9. RickG

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    If he was any kind of a driver he would have mastered backing in a day or 2 on his own . Don't put it on trainers when people are just incompetent .
     
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    Good advice on the practice.

    But there is better advice.

    Crabby have your BF give this guy a TOY semi truck with trailer to this teammate for Christmas. Find some legos, lincoln logs, etc. Any thing that you can use to make an obstacle course. You can even use other toys if you have access.
    Set up this obstacle course on the table top or floor and then make the struggling driver learn to back properly using this method. He probably won't get it down pat the first try, but after a couple tries usually an improvement will begin to be visible. Once he gets this operation into his head he'll have a much easier time of backing a full sized version.

    Don't laugh, this works. Some folks learn differently than others and being able to get a birds eye view of how the whole things works is just the ticket for some folks. It is confusing to keep in your mind that when you turn the steering wheel one way the trailer goes the opposite way.

    I learned to back on the living room floor at the tender age of 8. My dad saw to it.