Let's Make Rules Up As We Go Along.....

Discussion in 'Questions From New Drivers' started by JimDriv3r, Dec 5, 2010.

  1. JimDriv3r

    JimDriv3r Road Train Member

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    So where's the problem? :biggrin_2559:
     
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    Doesn't Nestle measure the amount of gallons that goes on your load and put on your bill of lading?
     
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    No not really.
    What if that small company of say 20-50 trucks has maybe 3 drivers with 1 or 2 points total, that company is not going to fail. Especially when explained to his drivers that "we follow the rules, we stay in business and to let me know when something breaks on the truck so he can get it fixed or you have an HOS problem and so on so forth," Sounds weird but hey it's your livelihood being threatened, not a job! If you can't drive then it's back to whatever you left to become a driver! Do you want fries with that or was it how do you want the grass cut or I don't do windows! But it won't be driving a CMV! And those CEO jobs are getting harder to get these days!

    BUT if mega fleet has a lot of drivers with many points due to say bad maintenance or "forcing" to many over hour tickets who's going to fail or get hurt worse and have this driver bring that repair to the yard and gets stopped on the road because they were to cheap to fix it on the road.

    That line is more of a scare tactic or conspiracy theorist outlook type statement or someone listening to the rumors on the CB or around the dinner counter at the truck stops.

    CSA is going to force the COMPANY and DRIVERS into compliance of the FMCSA and state and federal rules they should have already been following.
    Nothing more.
    Except that drivers that got tickets for speeding, log violations and maintenance problems will get hurt along with the company itself as they get the same points it's just that the company won't lose their job. That's the only draw back to CSA. Another person being put on the unemployment roster without the benefits of UE as they basically got fired for breaking laws and not a piece of equipment.
    It's sad but true unless they can go to arbitration and win.
    But as that "being designed to put companies out of business " That's not a realistic reason.

    It's all being put on the drivers shoulders. The days of "forced dispatch" are over. The drivers now have a weapon to use against a college boy dispatcher! It's "the rules" and we can now use that to our advantage!
    When you're told to "run with a heavy load, against the HOS rules or any other rule covered by FMCSA then there is a way around those "orders from on high" and you can't be fired for not following the rules that can save your arse from this treatment! CSA is a drivers best friend if you look at it this way! No more of this BS from a dispatch or company owner! it's all resting on your shoulders. Stay within the rules of the road, the FMCSA and common sence and you'll be hireable by the best companies and not BFI!

    And what government kickbacks are you talking about? Maybe for hiring someone off of unemployment? Any company gets those if they relieve the unemployment rolls, even that guy with 5 trucks. It's just a piece of paper away for anyone to get government "kickbacks!" Don't let that "kickback" word get to you when talking with a bunch of drivers in the restaurant! It's called rumors and bullcrapola!
     
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    Hahahahahahahahahahahaha! (lemme catch my breath.....) hahahahahahahahahahaha!!!!!


    So far, I've hauled water out of the Sacramento facility, and another warehouse out in PA somewhere. All were live loads. They only guess what was loaded on your truck, and they refuse to let you off of the property with less than 45,000 lbs in the box. Sacramento had a truckstop with a scale nearby, so you can easily take the load back if you were overweight. The facility in PA had no scales nearby. I was busted on 100% fault of my own. I could have easily refused the load if I had known that there were no facilities to weigh my trailer after I was loaded.
     
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    I know that the Scale in Indiana heading South towards Indi, on 69 is not a just Scale. the Mech. that has been called to fix trucks that have been placed out of service has admitted that he had been called several times to work on trucks that have no problems with the adjustment on the brakes and still had to work on them to get the driver back on the road. There is a racket going on here and someday you will see it. I am sorry if you don't think that this is an over regulated industry, but it is and it is designed to aid the Big trucking companies and cripple the small ones.
     
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    I had to make that bigger just to emphasize the importance of the above statement that many people either don't care about as long as their paychecks are still coming in, or just choose to ignore what goes on around them in this industry.
     
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    Over regulated? I think that is a little bit of an over exaggeration.

    The industry comes into contact with over 100 MILLION drivers a day. There needs to be regulation, but I think where you are getting caught up is how they choose to regulate...and who they choose to regulate.

    I agree that this will cost smaller carriers, but to say they are trying to put small business' under is a little crazy.
     
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    The entire article can be read here: http://lifeontheroad.com/2010/04/16/csa-2010-what-it-really-means/5419.html
     
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    If you're hauling a heavy load from a shipper, find out BEFORE you start loading where you can weigh it. Just common sense. And, companies work very hard to DISQUALIFY you rather than QUALIFY you at the beginning of the hiring process.
     
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    I know that already, but where do you weigh a load that has no scales at nearby truckstops and there were nothing but state police weighstations nearby? There were no back roads to take in the middle of nowhere in Pennsylvania that were legal. I just had the worst luck that day.

    I did receive a call today from a recruiter from a company that I've been eyeing for awhile. If things go good, I may be scheduled for orientation. I'm really excited, but not counting on getting "accepted". My luck is usually strange.