live load unload.... what?

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  1. Ridgeline

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    on duty ... it is work.
     
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    Depends. If you are unloading or helping unload the trailer, it would be on duty. If they are doing everything and you're just sitting in the truck, it is off duty.
     
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    Now if you were "On Duty-driving" to get to the place to unload you have already started your 14 hour clock so you may run over the 14 hours before you run out of 11 hour drive time I would think?
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    DOT regulations no longer require you to log all your time at a shipper or receiver as On Duty. I will log On Duty from the moment I arrive at the customer until I am in the dock, unless they say I must wait for a dock. If I have to wait I log Off Duty until I'm assigned a dock, then go On Duty to get into the dock. I always log Off Duty as I wait to be loaded or unloaded. Once they are done I log On Duty to pull out from the dock, close the doors, and deal with the paperwork.
     
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    Very true. That's why the United States dept. of labor classifies truck driving as an "Unskilled Occupation." Truck drivers like to make it more complicated to stroke their egos and make believe they are doing something with their lives.

    How many trucking companies list even having a High School Diploma as a qualification, just about zero lol.

    Training used to be, "There is the truck Jim, call us when you get to Chicago." Now a whole industry has evolved to make money and train truck drivers, it used to be 100% on the job training.

    Nothing special about being a truck driver, it's just a low wage, no skill job. If a guy at Walmart was working 24 hours a day 7 days a week he would make triple what a truck driver makes. But truck drivers are on the job, 24 hours a day, 7 days a week. Even while asleep they ARE BEING HELD RESPONSIBLE for the safety and security of their truck. Truck drivers make about $2.00 an hour when you add it all up. It's one of the worst jobs out there. Which is why there is a shortage.
     
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    Just to define this to stop the confusion, this has been the same term used when I learned how to drive a truck in the 70's as it is today.

    Live load/unload always meant that the driver either does the loading/unloading (breaking down the pallet of junk too) or that he/she supervises it.

    I have it on one of the accessorial pay schedules from one of the companies I used to work for which paid for live loads and unloads.


    This is all done while on-duty because it is work.
     
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    Ridgeline's idea of live load/unload is correct the way I first learned it. However, today it seems that the companies I've worked for since getting back into the business refer to live load/unload as any time you aren't doing a drop and hook.

    If indeed you are required to do the loading or unloading, assist with it, supervise it, or are responsible for standing there to do a count; then you are required to log that as On Duty.

    If you've backed into a dock and are simply waiting to be alerted when they are done, then that can be logged as Off Duty.
     
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    I can clear $1,300/wk for 50 hrs worth of work. That calculates to $26/hr for sitting on my ### and staring out a window all day. I get to have as many smoke breaks as I want while driving down the rd and have climate control so im never sweating/freezing my ### off while listening to any playlist of music I choose to listen to. Trucking is way better than any warehouse/fast food job. Pays weekly plus benefits
     
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