Log book vs. 100 mile radius rule

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  1. dude6710

    dude6710 Road Train Member

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    He did more than me, all I did was make sure the cord still had power and my truck was still here.
     
  2. 508darrinh

    508darrinh Bobtail Member

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    That's what I'm going to start doing. Years ago as a company driver, I tried doing the same thing and got my but chewed for it. Was told it wasn't legal. Didn't argue because it was their company. Just do what I'm told.
     
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    i run a time sheet, anything over 12 hours, i have loose leaf log sheets which i would fill out and staple fast to the time sheet. the time sheets we show 7 days, so worrying about your previous 7 is not a problem. my biggest issue is since i start at 1000 pm, and work until 1000 am, if i do go over 12 hours, do i need to fill out two log sheets due to the fact that my shift started one day and ended the next
     
  4. 508darrinh

    508darrinh Bobtail Member

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    I guess this is the link I needed. Thanks MNdriver. Basically on the days I'm local, I can use the log as the required "time record". And then in the event that I don't qualify for the exemption, I'll just log the trip normally.

    http://www.fmcsa.dot.gov/rules-regu...fmcsr/fmcsrruletext.aspx?reg=395.8&guidence=Y

    Question 19:
    Regulatory guidance issued by the Office of Motor Carriers states that a driver's record-of-duty-status (RODS) may be used as the 100 air-mile radius time record "provided the form contains the mandatory information." Is this "mandatory information" that required of a normal RODS under section 395.8(d) or that of the 100 air-mile radius exemption under section 395.1(e)(5)?


    Guidance:
    The "mandatory information" referred to is the time records specified by §395.1(e)(5) which must show: (1) the time the driver reports for duty each day; (2) the total number of hours the driver is on duty each day; (3) the time the driver is released from duty each day; and (4) the total time for the preceding 7 days in accordance with §395.8(j)(2) for drivers used for the first time or intermittently.

    Using the RODS to comply with §395.1(e)(5) is not prohibited as long as the RODS contains driver identification, the date, the time the driver began work, the time the driver ended work, and the total hours on duty.

    Question 20: When a driver fails to meet the provisions of the 100 air-mile radius exemption (section 395.1(e)), is the driver required to have copies of his/her records of duty status for the previous seven days? Must the driver prepare daily records of duty status for the next seven days?

    Guidance:
    The driver must only have in his/her possession a record of duty status for the day he/she does not qualify for the exemption. The record of duty status must cover the entire day, even if the driver has to record retroactively changes in status that occurred between the time that the driver reported for duty and the time in which he/she no longer qualified for the 100 air-mile radius exemption. This is the only way to ensure that a driver does not claim the right to drive 10 hours after leaving his/her exempt status, in addition to the hours already driven under the 100 air-mile exemption.
     
  5. old rock n roll

    old rock n roll Bobtail Member

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    is it true that u can log one 16 hour day a week on a log book ?? my company says you can, does any one know for SURE if you can or not ?
     
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    Awesome...cheers my friend... I understand completely....
     
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    I worked with a local driver who would log everything just in case. From day to day he would not know where he was going, having to bid on a route daily. When he would get a route that would send him over the exemption, he would already be prepared. His understanding was that if DOT stopped him he would need 7 days even if it was only the one out of the seven days he went over. I can see the post earlier that it wouldn't have mattered but you never know what the DOT is going to throw at you. Good to be prepared. This guy I was talking about was one of the best drivers I worked with, excelling in every aspect of driving/delivering.
     
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    If there are special circumstances like verybad weather and you need to get to safety because travel times are seriously reduced.
     
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    An accident is something that no one can predict. Bad weather (if you live where it snows) isn't much of an excuse. FMCSA will argue that it snows in the winter time so be prepared for it. I suppose a tornado that wasn't in the forecast when your shift started could be a plausable excuse also.
     
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    Yes but I wouldn't.