Logbook rules

Lol

 

Yeah, I picked up the sarcasm.

Truth be told, the majority of the advice I give isn't based from personal opinion. It's based on fact. You can continue doing it your way all you want. Like I said, it's your CSA points that'll suffer and not mine.

 

I do log it. Was just throwing out a scenario.

 

In actuality most of us are "under dispatch" practically all the time. In the examples I cited I drop my trailer at a company terminal for security reasons then travel home with the bobtail for my time off. Technically I am STILL UNDER DISPATCH while I am at home. It is my responsibility to go back to the terminal and retrieve the trailer I dropped to continue on my route and deliver my load on time.

In the above instance I am "relieved" of the responsibility and security of that loaded trailer while it is at the terminal and therefore CAN and Do log off duty when going home to a doctors appt or restaraunt.

Personal conveyance has also been refuted when a driver has in fact been pulling an EMPTY trailer. The DOT officer has no idea whether you are deadheading to another pickup. This is why some companies will not permit a driver to utilize the personal conveyance option when hooked to ANY trailer.

This is where regs, company policies and the DOT officers judgement may come into conflict. It is easier to substantiate using a truck as personal conveyance when bobtailing.

 

Going home is personal conveyance, even if you were to take a empty trailer with you.

Yes, because you're going home.

Because many drivers don't know when to properly use personal conveyance, as many drivers don't have a lick of common sense.

Even in some cases as I have pointed out earlier, bobtailing is not automatically personal conveyance. Here comes that common sense thing again. Using the truck for a work related task is not personal conveyance, even if you're bobtailing. When using the truck for a work related task, you are (here comes that word) "laden".

 

Innocent until proven guilty. Thanks, and I'll be on my way now.

 

i can see using the personal conveyance when you stop and start at the same place.

i'm sure dot would kind of frown when you log off duty in cheyenne wyoming and used personal conveyance to go home to salt lake to pick up your next load and going on duty again.

i could be wrong but don't think i'd wanna try it.

 

Using this train of thought then anytime you are heading back to your trailer ie.. If you dropped it at a customer to be loaded and went to eat or shop etc..
then you would be on duty driving.

Correct?

 

Off duty driving.

GR is confused by the guidance that states if you're dispatched from home, then the trip from home to the trailer is on duty driving.

 

What about bob tailing from home (in the country) to a repair facility in a town or city 20 or 60 miles away to get something worked on? I've often wondered if I should have filled out a pre-trip, and be logged on duty for that?