wow SL3406 glad you miss where ti said old rule of thumb, and not to overprice your self out. if you get that kinda money,great for you.
Depending on miles I'd have to say min$750--But looking at ur info--u are running local in one of the highest taxed states with extremely high fuel prices-)so im using this figure strictly as a base--there MUST b some type of sliding fsc & watch the miles very closely--although only u would know what u would actually have to report....also im basing this on(hate the word but here goes)the assumption ur equipment is paid for Just my $.02--Good Luck
I think SL is missing my point. No where in the conversation did I say 8-10 hrs of work. I thought we were talking about short hauls. 20-60 miles, that's where the 500$ was coming from. If SL3406 takes 8-10 hrs on those kind of runs then I can see why he would need more cash.
My reading comprehension is fine. 20 year old haul rates minus current day operating cost equals drivers pay, or less. The only thing I miss is why anyone would want to go through the headache of owning a truck just to make the same money they could make driving someone elses. If that's what's required to not price yourself out, I think I will pass. You both said $500 a day. If your days are less than 8-10 hours then yes, I misunderstood.
SL i think maybe it's more of thinking a little different level here, from where im sitting with 20 + years under my belt trying to help out a driver with less then 5yrs and new to owning their own unit things are a little different. we didnt mean it as a dig only that simply they need to look at being realistick with prices specialy during slow time and short runs.
I charge $325 a load going 50 miles or less, 200 mile run will end up taking the hole day 3 hours one way so if it takes a hour to load than a hour to unload your talking 8 hours round trip I run for a steel yard here and when I do I charge them $100 a hour and run what ever they give me some days I'll have 10 drops some only 3 runs with single drops
I'm assuming you charge $100 an hour for the return trip. Whatever the OP charges, I wouldn't tell either customer that you have easy backhauls to save them money. The backhauls only make you more competitive as well as being able to make more profit.
Ya most the time I'll start say 7am and at 4 or so they just say this is the last one when I drop I'll add 30/min or what ever to get me back to the house most days I'll make $700-$1,000 and only have $100-$200 in fuel
Near me, the dump trucks charge $75 an hour. Sometimes the trucks are constantly moving. I don't see how they make any money.
If you only have to take one load a day from them, then of course you should keep the truck busy doing another short haul from a broker, so in that case I think maybe $3.25/mi with a $400 minimum? Any load over 123 miles you will get more than $400. Then a broker load back, another $400. Crunch those numbers, that might end up working for you, being home every day, might be a $1,500/week paycheck minimum.