The space in a truck is same as the smallest possible bathroom with sink & toilet on 1 side facing a bathtub. It has no toilet, sink or bathtub, just 2 seats. Now imagine 2 people in this space for days & weeks with maybe 30 minutes here & there being outside of that space.
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Discussion in 'Questions From New Drivers' started by OkieDokie405, Jan 3, 2025.
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Another question if i can:
If we work for a company that pays by the mile how is it determined what miles go on the paycheck? Is it through the Electronic Log Device within the truck that we use, or is it tracked some other way. I realize that maybe not all companies might be the same so I am really only looking to see if there is a way to verify that were are being paid for XXXX miles during a set date range and that there is some sort of ability to go back and verify those miles within the date range. Thank you. -
the other is the eld is great to report miles and time. Each driver has to log into it, so we just run a report from the database and it gives the miles each driver drives under that load number, stupidly simply now. In 20 seconds we can have this for all the drivers.Chinatown and OkieDokie405 Thank this. -
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What do truckers do for defending themselves? I don't think any mega-carrier trucking company is going to be OK with us concealed carrying in their truck and there are like 13 states that don't have reciprocity with Oklahoma so we realize were gonna have to leave our firearms in storage. A hammer in the cab? Take up Marital Arts of some sort? What is or is not allowed for the most part? -
You'll probably never need to defend yourself, but carry an icepick or knife.
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The HazMat tanker employer paid drivers the miles the dedicated customer was charged. If driver wanted to tour America and run up the miles, he got no more pay than if he drove the most likely/reasonable/safe/shortest route. You got paid 890 miles from Ela Paso, TX to Ft Smith, AR regardless of which route was taken. I forget what happened in case of bad road conditions over a large area requiring a substantial increase in miles driven. Most of my weeks I was on guarantee or exceeded the guarantee so I didn't watch mile total very closely except in rare cases, very long trips with LOTS of waiting, for example.
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You want to have the mileage process fully explained to you and then monitor it when you start a company, at least until you REALLY understand the nooks and crannies in the system that affect your pay. Once you fully understand the process and you consistently see you NEVER get paid what the process explanation suggested you would get paid (look up Calvinball) the you should think about big decisions at the company. Some companies paid me like I was the bosses son, like I was any old employee, or like I wouldn't notice certain things until I did notice. I generally never worked anywhere until I had 90% certainty the only thing my paychecks would be were honest except for a rare mistake which can happen anywhere. DO NOT assume the company is honest until you discover they are not. Find that out before you show up for orientation. YOU WILL NOT argue a dishonest company into becoming an honest company. Dishonest companies do not put "we cheat drivers" on their web pages or advise recruiters to inform drivers of this feature. Research like your future depends on it.OkieDokie405 Thanks this. -
The issue becomes spicy if you often deliver/unload in pre-riot or low-grade riot cities or you accidentally are present when the riot kicks off for the first time in that location. If you deliver to the sites I excluded above you have a moderate to decent chance of a very light search of the cab, often only a guard standing on the side-step and looking into the truck and sleeper to verify no hidden humans and a quick look under the hood and under the truck with a mirror to discover any "surprises". In 3 years I went to more secure locations I NEVER had anyone do more than ask me a question and possibly look for a hidden human in my truck/sleeper. Military and power plants are their own category. You will hear EVERYTHING being claimed about the searches for them, some are possibly true but many are too good to check. EVERY military base the rules are set by Base Commander. The rules change based on conditions and most recent threat/event at any base, not just the one you are at. So prepare to hear drivers explain what ABSOLUTELY IS TRUE at Base X based on a rumor or a visit in 1972. The rules at that base have changed a dozen or more times since then and there may be almost no problem if you show up with a gun and get turned away or they may take you to jail for having a stray 9mm cartridge in your suitcase. The base may hold your gun until you leave or the base may call the local/state cops to have you arrested. The same base may have done both or neither in the past until the terrorist event at Base Y 2 days before you showed up at Base X.
If you carry a gun, there are safe ways to drop it off at a safe place or ship it home safely and legally. If you carry a gun it's your job to find out, not just explain you don't agree with the law they are charging you for violating.
Tire thumpers, wrecking bars, hammers, knife, ice pick, insect/animal spray, poor man's flamethrower a bic lighter and spray can of almost anything (hairspray, WD-40, etc), It depends on what you can carry in your situation and what you can use. Items that look like tools for truck drivers don't raise as much suspicion as items that essentially only have a use as a weapon.
Newbies VASTLY overestimate the danger in trucking. The real danger are the cars doing colossally stupid and reckless things that cause a crash, you will almost always walk away with minor injuries and they die. In almost 30 years I can remember about 5 times I wanted, got ready to use some tool for a security situation. 2-3 were in Oakland, CA (worst spot in the country, IMO), 1 in El Centro CA rest area, 1 abandoned weigh station on AZ-NM line. I went to Detroit numerous times and felt unsafe, it's Detroit, but had no problems other than all the street/detour signs were stolen. I went to Baltimore a few times before the St George Floyd riots. OMG Baltimore is awful. Haiti levels of crime and decay.
You will probably never have any event other than a yelling match with a customer clerk or your dispatcher. That was my experience. YMMVOkieDokie405 Thanks this.
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