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Discussion in 'Questions From New Drivers' started by Mdjr708, Dec 13, 2013.

  1. HotH2o

    HotH2o Road Train Member

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    Get yourself one of those orange hazmat books and learn how to use it. I'd also make sure you have a hazmat permit in your truck and it's current.
     
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  3. Mdjr708

    Mdjr708 Bobtail Member

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    Ok first off I've had my hazmat endorsement before I started, I've also read that the company needs to send anyone hauling a haz loads to do some kind of training, the company was aware of me being recent graduate an no haz training. I'm turning in 12 hr logs because I was told by another driver he does the same. If our logs show more then 12 we can get written up, even if our time cards show more then 12 we can also get written up, but I've haven't heard anything bout working more then 12 but I've been told that we aren't suppose to work more then 12 but still am. so far I've heard nothing. My main issue is securement, yes it's all dry van I'm driving however if I'm picking up a haz load an run it to Milwaukee an 12 skids of flammable or corrosive isn't secured then what??? I'm a recent graduate an been at this company about a month. So pretty much read read an more reading i need to do I guess. Im just more concerned on ruining my license before my career even gets started.
     
  4. HotH2o

    HotH2o Road Train Member

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    You're asking for trouble turning in false logs. I'd gtfo of there. You need to protect your CDL.
     
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  5. Ridgeline

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    What happens depends on the state and the cop who pulls you over. Some may look at the truck and say get one while others may call in for a level one inspection.

    You got a CDL, right?

    So what do you expect in training?

    The company has to certify you have had some hazmat training but it really is like a 5 or 10 question open book test.

    However you better have a ERG and if you don't, tell the company to get one or buy one and have them pay for it by turning in the receipt.

    SO I get it, you don't have the nerve to tell them to go to *****. I was told to work one day at one company over 14 hours and I told the super my driving clock stops at 11 and my work clock stops at 14, so deal with it because MY CDL is more important than your needs.

    Nope don't go back.

    No you shouldn't get a 2 week course unless you are clueless, but you should take it on yourself to ensure you understand how to use an ERG and the hazmat book.


    You got your training, it is the endorsement.

    Securement?

    Download the securement book from the state of Michigan or any other state, it has all of the info you need to get it.

    If you were concerned about your license, you would not even consider falsifying your logs to fit their needs.
     
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  6. GYPSY65

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    The company won't care if you loose your lic. You are replaceable!!! If things go south because you falsified documents then you get the axe and the company says they never knew
     
  7. windsmith

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    Negative. The carrier is required to train its drivers. OP - the document linked below has information regarding blocking and bracing of HM loads. I'm sure that your carrier will give you the necessary training before assigning you a HM load.

    From the document http://www.fmcsa.dot.gov/safety-security/hazmat/complyhmregs.htm


    The 'facts' posted on this site by 'experienced' drivers continues to concern me...
     
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  8. ladr

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    What concerns me is the drivers willing to put up with these acts and act like a victim.

    Stand up for yourself and educate yourself on the written do's and don'ts.
     
  9. windsmith

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    What I got from the OP's post is that the company is aware of his/her status, and has not yet assigned him/her a HM load. He/she was simply expressing concern that he/she would be assigned a HM load, and felt inadequately trained for that possibility.

    While it is every driver's responsibility to have basic knowledge, no driver can know everything about all the particular HM loads and the regulations pertaining to same. Nor should they have to. FMCSA says that it is the carrier's responsibility to provide each HM driver with training on both basic HM regulations, AND in-depth training on the particular materials and equipment that they will be coming in contact with - before they are entrusted with a HM load unsupervised.
     
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  10. Ridgeline

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    Yes there is some regulations about training but the truth is the FMCSA doesn't really require more than lip service in training. When I worked for a large carrier I went through my annual hazmat training which consisted of reading a 35 page book and taking an open book test. That met the requirements of the FMCSA, nothing else was needed. So in effect a company can go to JJ Keller and get their hazmat training booklet, have the driver read it, take the quiz in the back and that's it - nothing else is needed.
     
  11. KW Cajun

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    You need not be so "concerned" with the information posted by me.

    I was very well acquainted with the "requirements", as per HazMat "training" by employers long before making my post.
    As others have also posted, what's written on the FMCSA training requirements "sounds" and assumes a very high level of HazMat training is required by the employer, yet the reality of the employer satisfying those requirements is typically a short (approx 20 question) test, open book if needed.
    The employer also must "certify" you in this same respect, every 3 years. The training requirements of the employer are a joke.
    That is the reality. First hand experience in this (and I also challenged the "simplicity" of required training), showed me that what's on paper can be easily satisfied to the FMCSA/PHMSA "requirements" extremely easy.
     
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