P.T. H. Express (P&A) Elk Grove Village, Il

I stand behind what I post Nataly. My authority was granted in 1995, prior to that I was an O/O for four years and before that I was a company driver for seven years, I think my 'pedigree' speaks for itself. Now, as for the original poster thing, I don't care about that, there is always more to the story, your co's CSA score however is almost entirely your co's fault and you being the general manager I can say it lands pretty much at your feet.

It is your responsibility to hire and manage the drivers and O/O's, you failed. You allowed these drivers who I once again claim either came to you with bad habits or acquired them under your stewardship to ruin your score, you allowed it, it's your fault. If you have a contract that allows drivers to accrue violations like some of those that I read then you are a fool to have authored or agreed to said contract.
Il. law clearly states that it is an "at will" work state, once again you can fire or terminate a lease without cause.

There are many co's out there that operate within the bounds of the law even during the hard times of the last few years, I did. Blaming the economy is no excuse for poor performance madam, that is how you get violations. Furthermore, yes as a driver I did violate the law on occasion sometimes willfully but I can attest it was seldom as I have had only one moving violation in over 27 years as a truck driver.

PTH's CSA score is far past any excuse or circumstance, that is obvious. What is also obvious is that you don't recognize is that your company's problem isn't poor drivers it is poor management. My guess is that your company didn't see or understand what was coming in regard to CSA and it smacked ya in the rump, I hope you're playing catch up and maybe looking a little closer at what your drivers are doing.

One more thing. Had you kept your mouth shut and let the offending driver have his/her little hissy fit this thread would be in the basement by now but you couldn't let it go and you got your skirt lifted.

 

Threatening a driver because of what a driver said about your company? That's not too smart. The more & more you keep threatening drivers because of what they say just essentially destroys any credibility you had. Your csa #'s speak for themselves and any owner op that you contract to you to run under your authority is your responsibility still. If they aren't complying with the rules and regs then get rid of them. You sound like you want to run a company and reap all the benefits but when things go wrong you point fingers at everyone else. Try looking in the mirror next time.

 

I don't have to let go of anything And my skirt is certainly not lifted. You do have a point thou, we are way too tolerant, but the owners of this company are way too understanding and they give second/third/ forth chances way more than I like. I am not going to go in to details why we can not cancel contracts any time we like but as I explained to you it all depends on the structure of the company and on the contracts.
BTW, it amuses me how every one is huffing and puffing and how the employer is at fault no matter what! Your "constructive" criticism is also fun to read, especially when it is based on one thing alone. All of you changed the subject of this topic long time ago, and instead of me proving that this person has been paid in full I have to defend our csa score in front of you which I find stupid and unnecessary!

 

I look in the mirror every day, and trust me I like what I see
As I asked before : How will you feel if you don't get hired because your previous employer wrote a bunch of lies on your prev. emp. verification? And what will you do about this?
I stated about a hundred times that I do agree that we are at fault for tolerating/ understanding ppl's mistakes and giving them chances to fix their mistakes. I also said that I am far far away from saying that we are perfect or that we are the best out there and that every one has the right to an opinion. But I will not stand and read lies from some unhappy possibly formal employee of ours. To be honest, what any one writes good or bad about PTH it doesn't change a thing. The company is not going to go bankrupt because of some nonsense written at a truckers forum, but it is amusing to read ppl's opinions. What strikes me is how closed minded ppl can be. For 6 pages this conversation is about our csa score when no one noticed that PTH is not a single entity and there is another company involved with a perfect score. Before any of you have any say at the matter I will let you know that this other company is used only for our company trucks and PTH is owner operators only. What also strikes me is how none of you opened their minds for the possibilities that maybe things are not always black and white, and that maybe there is more to the story.

 

You mention in another post that there is another PTH, I noticed it, it shows that it has few trucks, if it has more you need to update.
Many shady co's will acquire seperate authority for several reasons a couple being; to shift the the operations from the bad co. to the 'good' when the gov't makes operating the bad co. to expensive. The other would be to run the receivables through one co then pay the drivers/contractors through the other thereby double dipping. Property brokers are notorious for opening shells to avoid paying the trucker altogether.

 

Everyone of us drivers live under this threat! The BS and lies and yes the sometimes truthful reports on whatever they are called this week, Hire Right or Usis or DAC website! That sentence has every TTR member rolling on the floor laughing! You must be really new to trucking! No, I can't get into linkedid as I'm still waiting on an old password to be sent to me or I would be all over your profile!

I had to go in with written proof, hence my COPY, COPY, COPY and take pictures rant to correct what a BFI placed on my report! All because they only require a click the button report that can be placed which is why I am pushing congress that ANY employee reporting company like Hire Right require a 500 word written report as to the drivers qualifications and disqualifications and that they be checked with a plagiarizing checker to keep CEOs, GMs, HR or Safety from cut and pasting any report but must spend time and money to report on an employee. Also the pay to report must stop also or the discount on receiving a DAC stop! Do it for free or don't do it and/or answer the phone and do it the old fashioned way!

So the disclaimer at the front of TTRs forum isn't a 2 way street is it? Companies can put lies on a website and not suffer any consequences but we write something in here and a "wanna be higher up" gets their panties in a wad and can sue while we only get to "refute and rebuke" the allegations? Yeah it's a level playing field in this world isn't it!

As I said this is getting interesting and again you keep digging in deeper!

And I really gotta hand it to you. You have no idea as to who the OP is? I would think just peeking at the OP's post you could narrow down the employee files to a single name!

Someone pick my silly old arse up off the floor as I'm laughing parts off!

 

No I did not say that there is another PTH, read the name of the topic in the beginning of this whole thing. And no, the reason of this other company has nothing to do with what ever you mentioned above, which I explained earlier!

 

As a matter of fact I do have an idea who this person might be, I have only 2 ppl that were recently fired ( which is not even the right word to use since they worked for an O/O.
The 1st one decided that it's OK to have his 2y old kid and his wife in his truck with him disregarding our NO PASSENGER policy, and the 2nd one decided that he can drive with his wife even thou we said that it's not permitted. Sadly they both worked for the same O/O. But than here comes another question..., why any of them will accuse us of bounced checks or what ever since we were never the one paying them. That is between them and the O/O.

 

Originally Posted by PTHEXPRESS
I don't have to let go of anything And my skirt is certainly not lifted.
No you don't have to let it go, fools typically don't.

Calling me a fool..., how mature!

You do have a point thou, we are way too tolerant, but the owners of this company are way too understanding and they give second/third/ forth chances way more than I like.
Then they are fools as well to allow their employees/contractors to trash their co.
Calling the owners fools!!! You seem like the know it all person. Consider for a moment that they use to be drivers once upon a time and put them selves in the other ppl's shoes. Yes at most they have been taken for granted but you are the last person who has the right to call ppl he never met names.

I am not going to go in to details why we can not cancel contracts any time we like but as I explained to you it all depends on the structure of the company and on the contracts.
Seriously? That's the best you can come up with, fail!
I don't have to come up with anything to satisfy an ignorant person such as your self Mr. Your rudeness and disrespect shows a lot, and honestly I don't think calling me names will prove your point. If you are not intelligent enough to have a "chat" without insulting the other person a conversation with you is pointless.

BTW, it amuses me how every one is huffing and puffing and how the employer is at fault no matter what!
No huffing here. Co's are structured like a ships crew When a ship sinks the captain gets the blame not the crew.
Every one learns from their mistakes.., the captain as well as the crew.., so read a different book, this one is old

Your "constructive" criticism is also fun to read, especially when it is based on one thing alone. All of you changed the subject of this topic long time ago, and instead of me proving that this person has been paid in full I have to defend our csa score in front of you which I find stupid and unnecessary!
I believe I clarified in an earlier post that my criticism isn't with some disgruntlled employee it is however that your co. is sub par. If you'd like to break down the finer points of your Basic scores I could do that but it would only validate what I've been posting.
..........., do I even need to comment on this?! Unless you work for the DOT and are in my office for an audit I really don't care at what you have to say, or the validity of your point. Since your point is based on your point of view alone, which is based on what you read on csa, without even considering that usually there is more to the story, I really don't see the point of even having this conversation!

 

And we have seen this in here before! it's nothing new as some drivers are not as smart as others and if this is true then I WILL offer my apologies as to jumping on you like a trampoline about the checks bouncing!

I have even been there many years back before I bought my own. Very unpleasant and the time in civil court was a PITA until I finally took his worthless arse down and it was so nice watching the repo guys towing away his equipment when the court did the garnishment of his account because even back then copy was a battle cry!

Looking at the OP's history he/she has only these few posts. But has been a member since 10/06 so we might not see him for a long time!

If it does turn out that it's the owners fault and not yours again oops and sorry and coming from me it does mean something unless it's not true and well I am a well whiskered member of trucking and when I speak it can remove layers of skin! I've done it from company side to owing and running my own and back so the Been there done that" I can say!

Now I am a tad bit not confused about this one

They are becoming a bit colored in with this quote. Having two different identities for a single company like this brings back my "chicagoland" comments. I can imagine several different reasons why this is so but several
aren't on a very lawful side of the line.


And looking at that profile isn't going to happen as they (linkedid) wants to much information to link in so I'll take you at your word! LOL