I have a couple concerns, besides the fan needs fixing for sure.
How can you have 21,500 rear axles?
Is that a single drive axle with a tag axle?
Should be 38K 40K 44K 46K tandem.
There's something not right if you're running 65 mph @ 2300 rpm with a .73 OD and 4:65 gears.
I had a 66 KW with a single over 13 spd, (.81 or .83), with 4:88's on tall rubber and that truck went 65 mph at around 2100 rpm.
One thing you can try to improve mileage along with running 55mph if you live in a wintery place is park the truck outside overnight and next morning when your tires are cold air them up to 95 or 100 or 105 lbs, whatever you run them at, before you drive it, trailer tires too.
Airing up a warm or hot tire in any climate is a guessing game.
Peterbilt 378. 3.5mpg. What can I do?
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That fan alone is probably sucking up 0.5 mpg.
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I have 2 drive axles. 21,500 each. So I guess 43k total. Now Im just going off what the door says though too lol
(im not sure what you mean by .73 OD)
The rubber on my truck are the 11r22.5's.
But yeah from what I could tell was at 65mph I was at 2300rpm. (not my tach is kinda fritzy)
I ran today between 55-60mph and averaged about 4.8mpg after the day was over.
What do you guys recommend running the tires at if they need 120psi?
Like I said, here in about 2 weeks hopefully Im replacing my whole fan clutch with a new one so I should be able to elemenate that issue for sure. -
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Most 13 and 18 speeds have two overdrive gears above direct gear, which is a 1:1 ratio, which means for every engine revolution, the driveshaft makes one revolution.
Your OD gears are .81 and .73, so the engine turns .81 or .73 revolutions for every full revolution of the driveshaft, depending which OD gear you are in, engine turns slower, truck goes faster in OD than direct.
Get your tire gauge out and check your pressures, but do it when the tires are cold, see if they're all equal or make them equal.
If your tire pressure is too low or they're all at different pressures your fuel mileage will suffer, especially in cold weather.
I would try 100 psi for starters on trailer and drives, and maybe 105 on the steering.
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An afterthought.
You're a little green, not a bad thing as long as you're willing and able to learn.
You're truck is set up for heavy loads, off road or mountain duty, going by the way it's geared, so I ask you, is there a mystery button in your truck that you have no idea what it does, perhaps a red knob on the gear stick bellow the shift knob, or maybe an extra set of air lines or wires coming out of the floor near the shifter that don't go anywhere?
There's a slim chance, (really slim), your truck night have a 2 speed differential that you might not be aware of, in which case theres a very slim chance your truck may go faster than you're aware, would be a great bonus, but the odds are stacked against it.
Most 2 spds I know of have a lower ratio than 4:65, deeper than 4:88, but you never know. -
Your tach may be off, as well as the speedo. Check your speed with your phone's gps ap.
With those tall gears and short tires, even with a double overdrive 18, it sounds like it was spec'd for heavy haul/off road use.
Doesn't sound like you are going to get a good mpg with that setup. Drive slow is probably your best option without spending money for new gears, as that will take some time to pay for itself.
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Appreciate all the feed back. To answer some questions, yes I am green as a company owner and owner operator. Have had cdl for 4 years though and am in the local 541 teamsters. But trying a new adventure.
So to add some more information about the truck, to my knowledge it was built as a heavy spec truck just from the research. The 4.65 gears, Double framed. Cat 3406e 475hp, dual line wet kit. Locking axles and diffs. It is an 18 speed. Truck was custom built for a construction/asphalt company which im assuming was used with a lowboy to move there equipment. I even have all there service and repair records dating back to the year 2000.
Snow Master: Im going to look at this tomorrow and take a picture too. Ill get some other pics of the truck as well and maybe can have some light shed on a few things.
WIll be checking my tires tomorrow and see what there all set at. Its cold here right now so shouldn't be a problem lol
longhualtransport: My tach is a little wonky to say the least. Half the time it works good, the other it bounces around. I do need to replace it at some point. Ill get my phone on tomorrow if I work and check my speedometer to make sure its working right though.
Would it be more beneficail to have 24.5's on my rig?
Trying to understand this whole OD thing but how do I know if I have .81 or .73?
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With an 18 speed I believe 16th gear would be direct, as in a 1:1 ratio, input on trans turns same speed as output. 17 and 18 are overdrive, meaning a 1:.73 or so ratio. I put shaft turns once and the output will turns 1 and about a quarter.
2300 rpm is screaming. I'm not a guy that's afraid of a few rpm but 2300 is a handful. There's many people here that think anything over 1700 is out of the question. But generators and ag equipment run 2100 all day.Brettj3876 Thanks this. -
And tire size won't make a big difference. Some yes but not huge
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