Petition to reduce 110 year sentence for truck driver in deadly I-70 pileup reaches nearly 1.5 milli

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  1. ZVar

    ZVar Road Train Member

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    I'll let you do the legwork. But make sure it's an apples to apples comparison. The driver illegally obtained a license. Illegally drive a vehicle past safe stopping location (cars can use a truck ramp too). Intentionally steared the vehicle into 20+ stopped vehicles causing 4 deaths.
    If you can find another wreck like that, we'll compare the jail sentence then.
     
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  3. Hulld

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    State the facts please?
    Illegally obtaining a cdl license?
    Illegally passing a truck run off ramp?
    Last I knew you had to “demonstrate” to an official examiner that you met all the criteria an then and only then would an official examiner award you a commercial drivers license?
    Also I can not seem to find find any statute pertaining to use of a truck run off ramp?
    Or any previous presidents pertaining to failure to use a truck run off?
     
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  4. ZVar

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    Yes, To get a CDL one of the requirements is to understand enough English to interact with officers and read signs. He admitted to not being able to read the signs as he didn't speak English.
    You tell me, how else he could of gotten his CDL?

    As for using the off ramp, it's just one option to stop an out of control vehicle. Any method not killing someone would suffice.
     
  5. Hulld

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    So if I am understanding correctly you are saying that an official examiner qualified and awarded a cdl license to an individual who didn’t meet the legal standards?
    Seems to me the official examiner is complicit and should be responsible for the accident?
    If the examiner had done his job correctly the driver would have never been in the seat and the accident would not have occurred?
    As for the truck ramp use law you are referring to I have yet to find any statute that supports it nor have I found anyone charged for not using one under any other statute?
    At the end of the day it was a horrible accident with no intent and although lives were lost the punishment is over the top.
    These accidents occur with lives lost all the time with out intent and yet no one is charged?
    Why this time?
    If you want just one recent example, how about the surf side condo collapse in south Florida.
    98 people dead not one charge of any engineering company, construction company, or inspection company.
    Seems to me with 98 people dead someone should be held responsible?
     
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  6. ZVar

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    And still no spples to apples comparison. All I'm getting is deflection and whataboutism.
    Question still stands. Give a single example of a wreck with the same outcome of 4 (or more) dead after intentionally stearing into 20+ stopped vehicles.
     
  7. mjd4277

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    But you did ask if Amtrak engineers and flight crews are held up to the same standards. If anything both types of employment are held to an even higher standards than we are-especially flight crews since they undergo constant training (in simulators and real aircraft) and they also go through what is called a “check ride”with a instructor and/or chief pilot (it’s a proficiency check).
    As I previously mentioned, in other countries if there is a serious incident or accident involving an aircraft where someone has been seriously injured or there’s a fatality usually the first thing on the authorities mind is to bring up charges on the flight crew for negligence resulting in injury or death. They may not be sentenced to 100 years but certainly do face a lengthy prison term.
     
  8. Last Call

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    I didn't realize that there are so many members on here that have law degrees that are so sure it is a unfair sentence
    Ya'll make it sound like the Judge just pulled the sentence out of thin air..
    I reckon he put alot of thought into it before handing it down ..After all he has to account for his actions too
     
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  9. bryan21384

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    Bro, it ain't even that serious. Folks are just expressing themselves on TTR, where truckers have a community amongst themselves to do it. We all know how the law works. It doesn't mean we can't agree or disagree with it. You're OK with how things went and that's OK! Many others see it the opposite and that's OK too!! I'm sure you've seen cases where you didn't agree with a ruling because the criminal got too short of a sentence. You're opinion if that's the case. Rulings, rules, and regs get passed or put down all the time. We accept them, but it don't mean we have like em. Some folks think just because it's the law of the land we have to like it and agree with it. It's quite OK for folks to express how they feel on things.
     
  10. Dale thompson

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    . I like the precedent here. I hope you hapless sacks of lazy that bumble through your day take stock of your responsibilities and consequences and up your game or quit. Think about being a professional and doing your very best EVERY DAY ALL DAY then if things go sideways you won’t need to whine and apologize like a 4 year old. The actions you take can and do have repercussions so if you believe shortcuts and mailing it in might get you a jail sentence that’s a good thing.
     
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  11. ProfessionalNoticer

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    If they're even real and legitimate. I feel confident most of those signatures are a fake as federal election ballots from 2020.
     
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