pilot cars are they required to have a cdl ?

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  1. Superhauler

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    I keep thinkin I read some where that some states are starting to require them to have a valid cdl. like one post said, it probably is required when he has to steer a wagon around. im not going to be doing that kinda moves.
     
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    If it's not a steerman, the CDL isn't needed. Kudos to you for looking out for an old hand.
     
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    On the subject of pilots.. heres a funny story. the last trip I did to Alberta my other coworkers had the worst luck with pilot cars. One just about drove off a bridge that was under construction when he drove around the cones for who knows what reason, another didnt have gas money. One truck died going up the smasher on highway 5 in bc so he didnt even make it to Alberta. And 2 had to go home after the first midnight-5am move because they had to look after relatives and couldn't be gone long which blows my mind why they'd agree to a job that had a destination of fort mcmurray. Everyday was just a new comedy of errors so it became entertaining after awhile in a way lol.
     
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    Sounds like a candidate to be an "above average" pilot car operator to me...
     
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    Nate, don't get me started.
     
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    Superhauler, Pilot cars don't have to have CDL to escort. If there driving a vehicle rated over 10,000gvw ie: duelly pickup, several states will require them to run a log book but no CDL until above 24,999gvw .
    If your rear escorts doubles as a steerman for Schnable/lowboy or any steerable trailer, no CDL.
    If he is classed as a "Tillerman" than CDL required.
    The Fed's defined "Steerman and Tillerman" a couple years ago. I have copy of reg in truck book I'll look for it.
    But in a nut shell, a steerman's feet have to stay on the ground or stay in his vehicle. No CDL
    A Tillerman stands on rear of trailer ie: 19 axle some 13axle trailers. CDL required.
    I know Oklahoma and Utah have been trying to change this scenario but to my knowledge they have not been able to.
    Hope this helps your friend, good luck.
     
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    thats what I remember. about Oklahoma was trying to do something like that a while ago. thanks.
     
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    Kansas no longer has "superload" qualification. They done away with that a while back.